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Sequential turn signals

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by creepjohnny, Nov 28, 2013.

  1. creepjohnny
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    Hey guys, I'm looking to put some sequential turn signals in my Pontiac, the only things I see online are LED kits, even for older car they convert to LED. And most of the actual modules out of early 60's cars are sold untested and look pretty ****py. I'd like to continue to run the 1157 bulbs in doing this. Anyone know any good vendors or companies that I should use?
    Thanks in advance
     
  2. The early (64?) T birds used an electric motor which tripped a series of switches.
    These work OK, but like anything mechanical can give problems.
    It can be done electronicaly, and the easiest way would be to try a place like
    Radio Shack ? (I think that,s what they are called in the U.S.) or one of the electronic kit suppliers.
     
  3. Check with the Shelby Mustang or Mercury Cougar aftermarket suppliers. The later Shelby 'stangs had sequential lights (using the troublesome electro-mechanical units like the T-birds and Cougars) but I've seen all-electronic aftermarket units advertised for replacement that still used conventional bulbs.

    I will note that these are wired quite different compared to 'standard' turn signals so may not be a easy install. The Ford-built sequential turns used no flasher, instead used a motor-driven switch and multiple relays as an '***embly'. The units I've seen are plug-in replacements for the Ford unit, so you'll have to wire the remainder of the turn circuit to match.
     
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  4. junior58
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  5. creepjohnny
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    Thanks junior, ill check em out.
    Yeah Steve the fords had crazy wiring for sure. I'm expecting to do a little cut and paste to make it work. I've heard from some local old timers that usin the old cougar or tbird may not be a good idea, because they claim to not have worked very good from the factory. Or had to be replaced often. Also I read on other forums that using the incandescent bulbs in cars that didn't come with sequential turn signal have a tendency to run hot? Maybe melting a lens? Sound legitimate?
    Does anyone know if I splice in a new kit do I have to change my flasher in the fuse block?
     
  6. patrick66
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    All Radio Shack is nowadays is a cellphone store. No electronics or parts anymore.
     
  7. flamed34
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    If you decide to go the Tbird path, let me know if you need any info. I'll have one in the shop to paint on Saturday. It's a '66 with the sequential lights. I'd be happy to look and see if I can get any part numbers, etc
     
  8. T.L.
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    from Colorado

  9. 5window
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    Late 80's-early 90's TransAms and granPrixs had sequentials-might check those out.
     
  10. gatz
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    I ran across an article in Cars & Parts magazine that describes the Cougar sequential turn signals and how to build an electronic replacement.

    Basically, (from what I understand) it uses the control module and the 1157 light sockets from 2005-09 Ford Mustangs.

    I saved it to a .pdf file, so if anyone wants it, let me know via PM and include your email address; I'll send the article

    gatz
     
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  11. tommyd
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    X2 on webelectric. Installed on my buddies off-topic Bullet Mus..... easy install. [edit] used the splice in kit. Half the price.
     
  12. junior58
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    Yeah, webelectric do a kit to convert the original motor and relay system on t-birds etc over to electronic, much more reliable
     
  13. redlinetoys
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    Agreed regarding webelectric. The splice in kit for a 2007 style mustang works great.


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  14. Actually, the Ford sequential set-up was reliable if you didn't immerse it in water, but Ford installed these in the 'wells' of the trunk and if the well drains plugged (common), they ended up under water. As long as the little motor/gearbox that operates the cam contacts is good, these can be rebuilt.

    I used to own a '67 Cougar, and got quite familiar with these....
     
  15. ElSupremo
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    Jerry's Electronics carries a programmable kit for the 91-96 Caprice. I'm sure it would be easy enough to adapt since it splices in to existing wiring harness. It's also a non-LED kit.

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  16. beianfanla
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    that right, As long as the little motor/gearbox that operates the cam contacts is good, these can be rebuilt.thanks[​IMG]
     
  17. creepjohnny
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    All great info!
    Seems like the web electric has a good standing with most of you. I'm
    So happy about keeping the incandescent bulbs, the thought of LED light I just couldn't handle on my ride.
    Seems simple enough to splice in which is great! I think is funny when people at work think sequential lights are new on newer cars, I love telling them its been around for 50 years!
     
  18. junior58
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    I've always loved them since I first saw a set on a Shelby when I was a kid, it blew my mind when I first saw them, thought WTF? But I've never had a car they would look good on.
     
  19. Engine man
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    You could easily use an led version to control a relay for each bulb.
     

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