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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Wildbill29tudor, Dec 20, 2013.

  1. Wildbill29tudor
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    I pulled this axle from under a sedan frame with a flat head on it. It has juice brakes but the steering arms on the spindles are throwing me off


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  4. 42-48 judging by the wishbone

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    those bones and axle kinda **** for a hotrod(they are good for the stock car they came from tho) but the spindles are the ones you want for f1 brakes on an early axle.
     
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    Ok good to know but they are seized and I was worried heating the spindles where the king pin is might be a bad idea


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    Take that kingpin locking bolt out and heat the axle as needed. The spindle has bronze bushings in it, while the axle does not. Do you have a good shop press? or access to one? Lots of heat and lots of pressure simultaneously are often needed to get those original kingpins out of the axle.
     
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    Those dogleg bones and that axle will work fine under an early hotrod, especially one with the axle out front and spring mounted behind to the bones. Careful when mocking up, the spread on those bones sometimes interferes with full turning radius of the tires, but if you catch it before doing your fab a simple gentle curve pressed into the bones to sweep them in toward the frame and back takes care of that.
     
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    Actually F1 brakes, F1 spindles and all, will fit directly onto an early axle!
    53 and up F100 will not due to kingpin diameter and KPI differences.

    With a bearing change and a bit of die grinder work (info in tech section), the hubs alone will fit both earlier roundback and these squareback spindles.
    The roundback I believe will need some grinding to clear the wheel cylinder but its an obvious and easy thing to do.
     
  12. seb fontana
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    I think they are correct..Nuts on in side..
     
  13. I thought the square bolt went on the inside to wedge against the grease cover so that the nuts could be done up on the outside easier?

    Thats what i ***umed.. And the original Merc rear end i have here has the bolt on the inside and nut on the outside.
     
  14. Carter
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    The square heads of the bolts should be inside the drum. The nuts should be on the back of the spindle and visible in the picture. In other words I agree with skidmarks.

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    Yes. That's how the dozens of them I've taken apart have been.
     
  16. RICH B
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    While the dogleg bones are useful in some cases, I'd just consider the axle itself a spindle
    donor; there is no shortage of user friendly, better looking "A"-'36 axles.
     
  17. rusty bill
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    No spindle stops either.
     
  18. Wildbill29tudor
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    Skid marks the grease shield is on the inside and making it a pain to get the bolts out


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