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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Sacramento Speed Shop, Dec 16, 2013.

  1. Hi guys, I'm currently in the process of making some 1 3/4 tall Velocity Stacks to Fit Stromberg 97 and 94 Carburetors. I don't have any pictures since I haven't made them yet but I promise I'll get some up ASAP!!
    I want to try something different and make a line of brass velocity stacks, a line of copper velocity stacks and then a line of polished stainless stacks as an alternative to the cheap aluminum ones available today... The process to make them will be a little high in the beginning but, I want to know how many people would actually be interested in buying stuff like this. Do you guys think I should go through with it and release these on the market?? or is this just the dumbest idea I could've came up with? Do you guys think people would actually buy them?? I've been loosing sleep over this so I really need your guys' opinions!!
     
  2. NudeBomber
    Joined: Aug 11, 2013
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    I believe if I were in the position to fabricate something like this, I would. I'd be hesitant to plunge everything I had on it though... sort of a narrow market you know. I'd make a few, test them out, put those up for sale. If you get a good response from them then move on more fabrication, get some marketing help (if you need it) you got a good looking Facebook page already but to sell anything, that's only one part of a much larger picture, isn't it. Anyway, Best wishes on this and everything.
     
  3. dreracecar
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    You start with a short throw air press like this and make a series of tapered dies and shims and press the dies into the tubing and as long as everything is square and your shim progression is the same, there wont be any differences between 1 and 100. The air press which is your most expensive tooling, it can be used for other things and the dies and shims made out of rems and scraps.

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  4. Why not just learn metal spinning? Fairly easy to learn, and wood lathes are cheap.
     
  5. Let me show you what I've made and tried to sell at local meets and shows with very little success. I wasn't interested in trying to sell these things on the internet but thought I could sell a few here and there. The gauge panels I said I would make them and get $ 150.00. I did make one of the tri-power air cleaners for a friend and charged him $ 100.00, it cost me about $ 80.00 to make. I think if you want to do this you have to really market them properly. I wish you the best with this. Pictures are your friend.
     

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  6. that's awesome man....I was thinking about other ways to make them besides metal spinning.....what it your opinion on using a hydraulic press instead of a short throw??

    Thanks
    Andy
     
  7. dreracecar
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    By using the short throw the ram is in a fixed location and will only go down so far each hit. By using shims to raise the peice or on top of the tapered die to lower it, each hit will be the same over and over again, need more flare?- throw another shim underneath , somthing very hard to acheive with a standard press unless you build some sort of veneir stop for the travel. Most shop presses are not that square or precise enough to get repeatability either also tonnage is hard to control.

    You would be far better off job shopping this deal out there. You would have to do to many to recoup investment. Making a part is easy, marketing the part is what kills the Idea. You need to make it for pennies to sell for dollars,making somthing for dollars and getting more dollars is very expensive, and as a bunch of hotrodders, we are a cheap bunch

    those stacks shown, after about 20 min of dialing it in , only took another 10 min to do them all
     
  8. Beau
    Joined: Jul 2, 2009
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    Could you just make a huge flaring tool to do the same thing?

    Interesting video.

     
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  9. NudeBomber
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    You machinist guys are so cool... Making stuff out of raw materials... Wow! Creating stuff that never goes away. All I do is graphics and marketing, not nearly as permanent.
    (I oughta hunt down and "฿!+©#-slap" my old career counsellor.)
     
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  10. badshifter
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    Cool project but the guy using gloves on a spinning part is CRAZY.

    That is a sure way to loose a finger, a hand, or worse. Glove gets caught on a burr or jaws and you don't stand a chance.
     
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  11. designs that work
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    Sacramento Speed PM will be sent.
     
  12. 340HilbornDuster
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    That's Cool!...like someone said "looks a little dangerous"...!

    Is the guy in the YouTube video Raymond Deemers here on HAMB?...
    I have the same Smithy Midas machine and I would like to see a close up picture of the flaring tool...if possible?

    Can't figure out how to post a question on YouTube?

    T
     
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  14. 56sedandelivery
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    My wife and I were at Red Robin last night. I had't been there in a while, and some things have changes. The fries now come in a stainless steel container with no bottom; it's dimpled like a golf ball, the top is cut off like balony exhaust tips, and it's conical shaped. I thought they would be perfect for single barrel, and maybe small 2 barrel, carburetors. Now, don't you guys go out and pilfer the fry holders from Red Robin, but they may sell them. Butch/56sedandelivery.
     
  15. Don't you be giving me any ideas now hahaha..I can see the headlines now, Disturbed man holds Red Robin hostage over Stainless Fry Holder!!!
     

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