Bye Bye paint jobs at home by 2007.

This really ****s. The EPA is pushing to ban the sales and use of automotive refinish products to anyone who is not "Certified".


Here are some excerpts:

"....Feedback, thus far, has helped the EPA identify a frustrated base of shop owners who are eager to put an end to unsafe and environmentally damaging painting practices performed by some shops and do-it-yourself mechanics.

“Primarily they want a level playing field,” said Teal. “They’re getting tired of having to comply with state and local regulations when there is a shop around the corner that doesn’t have to do anything. This rule will [take care of that].”

And it’s not just shops clamoring for change. Community groups have become incredibly active in their attempts to stop their neighbors from spraying paint at home in their garages at night, and to put an end to bad practices by certain businesses. “No one right now has a way to shut those bad shops or people down. That’s what this rule is—a way to shut them down,” she said.

Another component of the developing rule is a restriction on the “sale and use” of automotive paint products. Shops will have to meet certain certification criteria giving them the green light to spray paint. The rule will attempt to restrict sales of paint to people who are not certified users. “These are the types of things that I need your feedback on,” said Teal.

During her staff’s data gathering, Teal said shop owners have urged the EPA to tighten the language to include “use” restrictions as well as “sales” restrictions. The intent is to limit the sale of products to certified users, who then turn those products over to uncertified people."


The whole article is here:


http://www.abrn.com/abrn/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=196423

 

F*@king Gestapo.
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Like we all don't know a shop that wouldn't order us whatever we want. Laws like that just keep the honest people honest. Us "lowlife hot rodders" have always "found a way" and always will.

 

That and we rely on the SEMA legislative arm to lobby for us!

 

True...

lol, When paint becomes outlawed, only outlaws will have paint.

 

What'll happen to the tech school where students have to buy thier paint to paint at the school in the paint booth?
That kind of **** would put the paint stores around here out of business. They make most of their money off people doing their own paint jobs....

 

LMAO. Besides here in Phoenix (as well as many places) you are not suppossed to buy fibergl*** in large quan***ies due to styrene emissions. I can have 10-55 gallon barrels here tomorrow, great law.

 

No biggie... everyone knows someone who works at a bodyshop.

There will be some shady backdoor shop deals on paint

 

Its a rule they're pushing that they HOPE to have go into effect by 2011 not 07... Six years from now.

The sky is falling.

Tuck

 

Wolf, I see a wolf.

 

i wonder what they mean by certified. i have some ASE certs in auto body/paint and i've never worked in a bodyshop (owner was paying for my tests so i took extra), i was going to take the icar cl***/test but it was too much $$$.

 

Those are the best kind.

 

We're all just going to have to move closer to Mexico. First it was Tuck & Roll and Bongo drums. Then it was ******s, booze, and dope. Now it's paint. Damn the bad luck!

pigpen

 

Not necessarily just paint bro..........last summer (2004), a friend of mine got busted spraying PRIMER in his garage with the door open. First offense, $500.00 fine!

The powers that be are trying real hard to kill the home builder. They want us all to drive new cars that no one can work on but the dealer.

For example, new Mercedes Benz cars starting in '05 don't come with a dipstick to check the oil level. A few years ago they did away with the dipstick to check the transmission. It will be interesting to see where this all is in about 20 years!

 

Yipes, I'd hate to be walking down the street and have some dude walk up to me and say, "Pssst, buddy, you wanna buy some Nason?"

This is a load of ********, I'm not liking the way things are heading.

 

They'll still sell rattle cans of flat black though, right?

 

...psstt..hey man, gonna make a run to TJ dis weeken' ya want some prescription meds, cheap booze, switchblades, and, oh ya, we got paint in all da' colors man, laquers, primers, metallics, all good ****...

 

Did you know that Duplicolor brand spray can paint for truck touch up, and some implement paint is all acrylic lacquer. It sprays almost as good as a gun, and color sands and buffs out like one of Boyd's paint jobs. I doubt that they will outlaw spray cans any time soon. Who would pay for the campaign for the next election? PPG? Dupont? Not.


pigpen

 

Not all of us do. I'd have to travel several states to know somebody that worked in a body shop, or I'd ahve to call in favors from friends of friends. Today at lunch, I drove to the local PPG shop and bought a quart of DP. That's a big difference to me. Not all of us in this hobby have the network of friends we'd like.

Sounds like the EPA is asking the people they know will give them the answers they want--shop owners. The industry-sponsored website this is posted on doesn't mention if hobbyists are also being polled by the EPA.

 

Level the playing field?

Follow the money!!!


They spray entire houses all the time!!!, but with "low VOC" paint so ****ty it fades out and peels within two years.

Did I say I hate ****ing Government/Gangs?

 

Dont be silly! I'm brush painting my car, I'll come by tommorrow to pick up that paint.

What about auto air colors,thats supposed to be non-toxic right?

 

Yep. It's water-based/water-borne. BUT...it needs to be applied to a solvent-based primer or sealer! While all manufacturers will be spraying water-based by 2009, they will still have to use traditional primer-sealers, and for that matter, clear as well. Every major paint company already has a water line of paints in the works, so when the EPA does have its way across the board, it will be base and topcoat materials that'll be hard to get for the average consumer.

 

I reccon that I had better hurry to finish all my projects before the paint supply starts to dry up.

Some years ago, the EPA got things all screwed up by forcing the manufacturers to change their formulations to be more environmentally compatible. That raised the cost of the damn stuff about 400%. I spray in my garage regularly. I don't think that my neighbors have been complaining. They are all so nice. Right now the city of Torrance says that I can spray up to six ounces per day not to exceed one gallon a year (AQMD Rules and their fine is hefty according to the environmental officer in Torrance). Torrance only charges a $50 fine. Ut-oh. I am in big trouble now. I had better be good to my neighbors.

Boys and girls, we had better just be as careful as possible 'cuz all it takes is one snitch.

We just gotta keep on doin' what it is we do...the devil help us.

 

Now we'll be going to Mexico for paint jobs instead of a tuck 'n' roll job. Just bring several friends, all of you armed and dangerous...

 

well if you jus thave to be certified to [urchase does that mean it is like guns where you jsut register so they can track how much you buy/use? would be nice if th eloop hole was that all you have to have is a filtered spray area IE box fan and furnace filter and you are good to go.

 

But is there anything anyone can do to try and stop any of this or slow it wayyyy the hell down????

 

Guess we'll all have to start buying up and building deloreans!? LOL

 

Tuck will supply the HAMB. He bonified.