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Hot Rods Can Someone Tell Me What this Wagon Is Worth???

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by bmart, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. oldsjoe
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    Keep it in the family and put it together yourself as time and money allows. Then ask Grandma when she is ready to sell if you can have first dibs on it at her price. That should keep peace in the family and get you Granddads car at a fair price.
     
  2. Chaz
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    Yeah, I'm sorry but I was thinking 5 grand tops. Probably 3 grand is closer. Its just not that desirable of a vehicle in my estimation.
     
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  4. The37Kid
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    It doesn't matter how much the paint job cost,if it is a color that is a total turnoff to buyers, than it was money misspent. Bob
     
  5. Boones
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    Gman, I disagree with your view. value is only determined by demand. not a wink of how much you have into it. sure, the more you have into it, the more it might be worth (compared to one that does not have anything done to it) but that amount does not determine its value.. real easy to put $50k into a car and have it only worth $35k.

    put $50k into a pinto and it worth only so much, put $50k into a 35 Ford or a 62 impala, none are worth the same amount but have the same put into them.
     
  6. HOTRODPRIMER
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    Why are you taking everything as a insult?,,you are en***led to an opinion same as anyone. HRP
     
  7. arkiehotrods
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    Does saying "Bull ****" make you a bad*** or something?

    If you read my post and comprehended it (and obviously you didn't), I said, and I quote, "THE ONLY THING THAT DETERMINES VALUE IS DEMAND." A case in point is what Aaron Grote's incredible Atomic Punk brought at auction, considerably less than what he had in it and less than what most people thought the car would bring. That car should have brought much more but it didn't because at that particular auction in that particular selling slot, the DEMAND was not there.

    Look at ads here, craigslist, eBay, autotradercl***ics, anywhere, and you'll see quite a few ads saying, "$$$ invested, sacrifice at $$," or "my loss, your gain," etc. This aint' rocket science, sonny boy.

    And also, in case you missed it, I posted values from two different value guides (Hagerty and NADA). The only one that came close to YOUR estimation was the HIGH retail from NADA at $16,500 which was on the LOWER end of your "expert" valuation of $15k-20K.

    You can live in a pretend world if you want to, and I'm happy for you that you got a good price for your very nice '62 Chevy wagon, but that is the exception, not the rule.
     
  8. falconsprint63
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    my car is a great case in point. I have over 20k invested not counting labor. Evertything that went into the car was new or rebuilt. I built the car with a family dependable family vehicle in mind, not resale. I've dropped the price repeately to try an elminate some household debt and I've not had any serious lookers. Realistically I believe my car is as a 10-12k car in it's current condition, mabye upwards of 18 in paint and witht the interior finished, but I"m not willing to spend another 5k to lose money on it. the difference between mine and that one is the age plain and simple. street rod wagon versus 60's wagon is IMO not the same comparative.

    I just don't think a 60's 4 door wagon is a 15-20k car without coming fully off the ch***is and coming back up from there. After you speing 15-25k on it sure, but not as adverstised with a decent paint job from a local shop on a garage build with old interior just isn't going to pull that kind of money--at least not around here.

    BTW if you can come close to recouping my investment int he delivery I'll pay you a commission. Put your money where your mouth is.

    finally--he asked for opinions and opinions are like ****s--everybody's got one. I shared mine, you shared yours.



     
  9. lothiandon1940
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    Dang, the guy asks for a few opinions and a war of words breaks out.:eek: The bottom line is nothing in this world is "worth" more than someone is willing to pay for it on a given day so all of our various speculations, including mine, are just that....speculation.
     
  10. tfeverfred
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    Wow. Cool your jets, turbo. In "MY" eyes and desires, it's a station wagon that still needs to be put together. Yes, station wagons can be made to look cool, but that audience is small. In my neck of the woods a station wagon isn't a desirable choice for a hot rod. It would be a nice cruiser at best. So, the offers for it would be low. It may have a nice paint job in the photos (which don't show detail), but if I bought it, I'd paint it black. That paint job wouldn't impress me the least.

    I read that the OP was trying to come up with a cost, so he could buy it without feeling he was taking advantage of anyone. Hey, if he wants to give more, more power to him. Did I miss the part where he wanted resale value, AFTER he finished it?

    Mine is just one of several OPINIONS. That's what the OP asked for. Right or wrong.
     
  11. bmart
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    Well that's the thing. He had about 5 cars lol. She is keeping his 1947 Lincoln continental convertible. And his buick convertible. So we still plan on taking those out. If I do buy it she will be free to take it as she pleases. And I probably should have put pictures up after I got it back together. Wasn't thinking on my part.
     
  12. bmart
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  13. Gman0046
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    bmart, let us know about the auction. Vincennes is not that far from me. I still think that Buick wagon will be a great highway cruiser.
     
  14. Dont have any idea on actual value other than you probably wont see another one like it Which always increases the value
     
  15. bmart
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    Is there a place to put them? This will more than likely be a total weekend auction. It will be this summer. And that's what it's gonna b is just a highway cruiser. It prolly isn't gonna win any awards but it'll b a nice cruiser and perfect for what I'll want.
     
  16. 327Eric
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    Its missing pieces, which may or may not be there, and may or may not need to be refinished. 2500-3 buys it or I'm out.,starting at 2500 as is where is. I'd resell it 4200- to 5000 on the trailer, price goes up 500 when I unload it. If I ***emble it, only with stock parts, or whats there, 8500-9,000 . If I update some things, and make it a little more appealing to a broader audience, then I may get 15, to 18k.
    It is not a Chevy. It is not mainstream desireable. It was not overly popular when new. It has four doors, It is not in California, and it has ugly wheels.
    It is Cool, it has a 401, it is a longroof, it is rare.

    There is my estimate. It is ultimately worth what you and your grandmother agree it is worth.
     
  17. bmart
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    All the pieces r there. Just not on it. I pulled them off lol
     
  18. HOTRODPRIMER
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    If you really want the car talk to you Grandmother about it..at a auction the wagon may bring good money,then again it might go for pennys on the dollar.

    Good luck whatever you do. HRP
     
  19. bmart
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    Thank you for all the opinions. That car prolly won't be in the auction. If I have anything to do with it. And I'm pretty sure she won't either
     
  20. cafeswartz
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    Wagons are cool , desirable , race it ,cruise it do what you want. Lots of people just want a cool car and a lot of them can come up with $6 -8000 for a car they believe they can make in their image ,meaning they think they can do the work it might need.
    I think that's where this car is with the chrome on ,motor running.
    I have a 64 Pontiac wagon so I hope I'm right.
     
  21. czuch
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    Have a seat with Grandma and talk real deep.
    Don't be afraid to throw a SINCERE tear.
    Let her know how you feel and the connection with Grandpa.
    Have cash or the ability to get it fast.
    Its a cool car and you can get it without discontent in the family.
    $2000/4000.
     
  22. Oldmics
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    3K as is.

    5K TOPS when done and remember your going to do necessary labor on the wrenchin to put it all back together - not granny.
    Thats certainly worth something!

    Just look at the number of posts ***essing around the same value.

    Course I guess we could all be wrong and it is worth 18K :rolleyes:

    Oldmics
     
  23. bmart
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    Thanks everyone. I will sit down and have that talk with her. I kinda think I'm gonna go ahead and finish it first if this dang cold ever goes away
     
  24. ray seelbinder
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    Hello, your grandmother will go with whatever you offer ! Be fair, as she will be !
    But the deal is, is that she is your grandmother and she should give you the car and you take care of her until her last moment ! monthly payments ! She has them , you'll have them !
     
  25. Rattle Trap
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    A realistic family price would be in the $2500 range. If you are feeling rich and want to help out your Grandma then $5000 should make you feel real good. That's about all the market would bear right now. That is unless someone really wants it bad. Make payments to her?
     
  26. bmart
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    The money part is really the problem ha. I have the cash but I had no clue what these cars bring. You guys have given me a decent range which is kinda where I thought it would be.
     
  27. lothiandon1940
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    Not really sure we were much help.
     
  28. bmart
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    Got a decent range on it though
     
  29. Take a look at the ads in a few months of Hemmings Motor News, Cars & Parts, see if any have been on eBay and see what Old Cars Report tells you for a value, subtract rough cost of labor to ***emble from #3 or so condition. Back it up with KBB or some other old car value guide figure. Somewhere in there you should be able to get an idea what it's actually worth.

    That will do a lot better than the highly subjective opinions on this board from guys who have no idea what the market is nor do they really give a ****. The paint job alone is likely worth $3000. Wagons are fairly popular and a '64 Buick has both the desirable engine and the decent transmission in it. As long as no hard parts are missing or damaged, $10-$15K wouldn't surprise me on it. But I haven't looked at them either. Detailed to the max with a surfboard in the back, through an auction, it could even do more. As it sits, it would be less.


    But I'd ditch those wheels, and if it has radials that have been sitting more than five or six years you need tires anyways. They go bad and can come apart or blow right out.
     
  30. bmart
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    That's what the surf board is for. I may decide to take the wheels off and change them later but don't have the funds for different ones at the moment. I'll just go ahead and start mounting all the chrome and everything back on it. That'll make it look a lot better. Then detail it really good and polish out the chrome. Make it look like a new car again
     

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