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Miller 175 VS. Miller 210

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Rusty, Nov 11, 2005.

  1. Rusty
    Joined: Mar 4, 2004
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    Gonna go get one or the other for the shops new welder. Which do you prefer over the other. I know the 175 is a great welder but while I got the money I want to make sure I get the best for the money. Gonna be using it for everything. The qoutes I have gotten are 700.00 for the 175 and 1300.00 for the 210. Is the 210 that much better. I use a 200 at work all the time at work and love it and I have used the 175 of my pops but I have never seen the duty cycle on the two. Anyways let me know what yall got and prefer. Thanks:)
     
  2. Winfab
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    If one has a "clicker" for the voltage setting and the other has "infinite" adjustability for voltage I'd choose the infinite adjustment any day. Sometime one setting is too cold and the next too hot on the "clicker", but that's just my $.02

    Lynn
     
  3. 392_hemi
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    I have a 175 and have never had it to max output for anything car related. And I've never had the duty cycle light come on, even during extended use. But if I had it to do over, I'd serioulsy consider the 210 because you never know when you'll need the extra power. One thing about the 175, if you get one, buy the larger running gear setup, not the smaller one. Had the latter for about 3 months and sold it off for cheap. The bigger gear is far superior. Oh yeah, the 175 has infinite adjustment too.
     
  4. Slide
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    Winfab nailed it. The 175 has the rheostat-style heat control, and if you ever plan to weld on any metal that's ever had any rust pitting (not you :D !), you'll want the infinite control.

    I have the Millermatic 135, and weld 1/4 inch stuff with it all the time, and have never hit the duty cycle... but I wish I did have the 175. It's really pretty rare to weld anything more than 1/4" on a hot rod anyway. The 210 is really kind of overkill... unless you're a production shop building frames and stuff...
     
  5. Orange54
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  6. Rusty
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    Off to get the 175
     
  7. Dirty2
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    The 210 is really kind of overkill... unless you're a production shop building frames and stuff...[/QUOTE]
    Someday !!!:rolleyes:
     
  8. D.W.
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    I love my 175!very forgiving machine for my novice ass to learn to weld with.:)
     
  9. enjenjo
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    One thing to consider, the 210 is big enough to do spray arc, much better looking weld.
     
  10. diggermike
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    HEY, DUDE
    THE 210 MAY BE MORE THAN YOU REALLY NEED,"BUT" I'D RATHER BE ABLE TO TURN IT DOWN. THAN TO WISH I COULD TURN IT UP. YOU KNOW' IF I HAD YOUR MONEY I'D THROW MINE AWAY. HA:D ANYWAY I PERSONALY LIKE THE MILLER SYNCROWAVE 185 TIG WELDER. IT'S WHAT I'M GETTING FOR MY SHOP."HIT THE CHUTES AT THE 1320, I'M DONE:cool:
     
  11. blacktopbutcher
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    I just bought a miller DVI for my shop awhile ago and this welder is killer. You can switch it from 110 to 220. All you have to do is switch out the plugs. It come with both the 110 plug and the 220 plug. Pull one off and lock in the other and your ready to go. Beats buy two different welders.

    Here is a link to all of the info on the welder

    http://www.millerwelds.com/products/mig/millermatic_dvi/
     
  12. 50dodge4x4
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    If your buying a new welder and think you might some day be welding alumium, get the spool gun attachment up front.

    I have a 210 that has served me well for years. I did a lot of alumium welding through the whip. What a PITA. A few years ago I got a big alumium job. After screwing with the whip, I called my supply co, and ordered a spool gun for my 210. They had a special going on a 175 set up to do either alumium with the spool gun or close the gas valve, change the settings open the other gas tank and weld steel. The whole thing was about $500 more then just the spool gun attachment for the 210, so I bought the 175.

    I only use the 175 for alumium and have stainless in the mig part now. My 175 has the 6 (or whatever # it is) position settings. I HATE it. They won't sell me another welder with out the infinate voltage setting. You might want to see what that 175 has for settings. I know it would make or break the sale for me, now that I have used a welder with set position voltage options. Gene
     
  13. Dirty2
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    If we had your money we would ?????? Go to your shop and work !!!:D
     
  14. Richard Head
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    Two years ago I bought a Millermatic 210 and it came with a free spoolgun it was a special promotion and was shipped to my house for $1200. They sold so many of them with that deal, I had to wait 4 months to get it. I don't think you can even buy just the 210 for that money. I hardly ever use the spoolgun because it produces such ugly welds compared to my tig welder, but it comes in handy for quick welding aluminum that doesn't show. The nice thing about the 210 is you can be welding steel with the standard mig gun then you can just pick up the spoolgun and start welding aluminum. I run dual tanks, so I don't have to switch anything at all. I wish it had infinite voltage control though.

    Sometimes it pays to check the Miller website to see what kind of promotions they are offering.
     
  15. i have a 185 (try and find that one new!) it's great for frames and bodywork. the muffler shop by my old work used a vintage (200amp) and another shop used the 185.
     

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  16. krooser
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    I sold my old Millermatic 35 last summer and bought the 175. I've got to admit that I really like the unit and it's perfect for hot rod fabrication.

    Like most guys, I REALLY wanted the 210 but I couldn't justify the added expense. I'm glad I bought the 175.
     
  17. rotgg
    Joined: Apr 14, 2005
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    my vote 175
     
  18. zman
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    Hey diggermike, QUIT YELLING!!!

    My vote is for the 210 if you can swing it. And check around, I got mine when I went in for a 175 and they had the 210 on sale, I even got a spool gun thrown in...
     
  19. with all this welder talk i found this on craigslist:
    millermatic 175 - $650
    millermatic 175 mig/flux very little use maybe 4 times 562 8811812
     
  20. Mutt
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  21. el Roach
    Joined: Mar 6, 2003
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    I bought a 210 a little over a year ago and could never get used to it (too hot, too cold). Took it back to the local outfit I bought if from (who by the way, matched internet prices) and got the 175, a new torch setup, spare spools of wire, new gloves, some Zero Rust and buncha misc. for the same money.
    I love the 175!!!
     

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