yet another way to ripoff people on ebay etc

I bought a couple of brakes on ebay recently
paid shitload of money for ups delivery, seller only wanted to ship ups , didnt figure it to be that expencive that it was but anyhow, ...
got the package all fine... then suddenly i get a bill from ups for the delivery
apperantly the seller checked the "reciver pays everything" box, but then under its checked bill ups account, most likely the seller just made a misstake and this will be sorted out pretty soon, the bill on my side is freezed at ups right now due to investigation, its not that i really want to pay 400 dollars again in shipping as i already paid it, so a kinda sour feeeling right now but i do belive the seller just made a misstake, BUT then i just realised that there we have another way to rip off people,

TAKE NOTICE WHEN EVER YOU RECIVE A PACKATE WITH UPS OR DHL OR WHAT EVER....

double check how the billing is stated on the freightbill, would suck to have to pay something again thats already paied, and some moron sits and laughs while ripping you of 400 bux or more or less...

anyhow i'll post an update on monday when i talk to ups again...

 

Seller in the states?

 

Yes he lives in the states, and seem to work withhotrods or atleast have sold out alot of his own stuff or something, the goods was very wellpacked and quick delivery etc so on that part everything is very cool

but feels to early to name names and point something out
i wanna belive its just a misstake that will be sorted out
but in worst case someone owes me approx 400 bux

anyhow hopefully everything will be solved pretty quick, the thing though is that i relaised that that could be used to ripoff people.

 

Hopefuly just a mistake on his part, let us know how it works out.

 

It's not clear who would be doing the ripping-off here...
Is it the seller doing the rip-off or is UPS?
I would love to suspect UPS!

(But then, I don't trust any company that you can't talk to the company's owner on the customer service phone.)

 

i bought an item on ebay, paid seller for item + shipping (400 dollars shipping)
he sent via ups, i got it delivered by ups, didnt notice that the freightbill was checked reciever pays all
so ups wants me to pay them approx 400 dollars for shipping that i already paid the seller, ups didnt do anything wrong

the thing thats wrong is that either is the seller "trying" (heck im out of the money so in a sence in that case he succeded) or he just made a misstake checking the wrong box on the freightbill

 

I,ve sent a few things within Europe by UPS and they allways come with a rectified bill for an extra 10 or 20 euro,s . First they work out the amount based on the measurements and weights i give them and a month later they screw you.

 

Sounds like you got scammed.

You want us to break just his thumbs or his knee caps too?

Reason # 3,9849,201 why Ebay sucks shit.

I guess from now on you'll be asking to pay shipping at your end?
I didn't know UPS even did that.
I bet they have a small country full of unpaid for and therefore undelivered shipping?

 

yeah a 10-20 bux is liveable but 400 dollars is not so fun to be scammed about

 

i don't think it is the seller trying to rip you off , UPS charges are always prepaid by the shipper ..so he had to pay the shipping charges in advance to send them

sounds like UPS is the one doing the ripoff...or maybe they are some sort of customs charge?

 

oh hmmm yeah thats what i figured that it had to be prepaid or atleast be sent by someone with an account that they charge it from...

the customs was paid seperatly so this has nothing to do what so ever with any custom fees,

 

you all the sad thing is that even though if i really am scammed somehow for 400 dollars... it's almost still cheaper then to buy the stuff around here... but still doesnt make any scam right...

i'm holding out til monday and calling ups and see if they come to their sences.. emailed the seller asking what was going on aswell...

 

I also doubt this is an eBay scam. How much feedback does the seller have?

Those forms can be confusing. Unless it's a COD, I don't think UPS would ship the package unless it was prepaid by the shipper. It's possible that the guy checked that box off by mistake, but...

I've shipped some stuff through Fedex and a month or so later, I got a huge bill from them for customs/tariff fees, saying that they couldn't collect it from the reciever, so I had to pay it. I will NEVER ship anything out of the country again, unless it's through USPS. NO Fedex or UPS international, because they expect me to pay the customs/tariff shit when my deadbeat buyer won't.

I wonder if UPS isn't charging you some huge Tariff/Customs charge. It's very possible, and in that case, it's not the fault of the shipper, and not his responsibility to pay. If the guy has good feedback, I would suspect that is the case.

 

My bad, I wasn't finished typing when this came up.

 

Here's hoping things work out in your favor.

Check out the link in my signature if you have a spare hour or two. A scammer gets what is coming to him and it is seriously making history.

 

sorry to hear about your deal , but as bad as it is I hate to have all of us ebay sellers lumped into a were gonna screw you category, Prolly a mistake on ups part I would suspect and no body is screwing nobody,,,Need something shipped to stockholm get with Jan forsberg there in stockholm he will get it there for you ...

 

GEE, another black eye for the brown shirt guys. If I saw a "Ship UPS Only" in an eBay auction I'd be off to aother auction in a flash. FedEx GROUND is the way to go. Screw UPS! Just reread the original post, didn't realize there was a pond involved, still wouldn't pick ups to deliver anything.

 

The fixed rate shipping is a scam too. Same price to ship whether you are in the same state or on an opposite coast.

I only buy from sellers who use actual shipping figures.

I know this isnt the same as your situation, but its more common here.

Since its been a Holiday weekend, you'll probably get better results from them on Monday.
Its most likely the sellers error, and he will have to contact UPS to get the charges set to his account.

Good luck.

 

I can understand that for heavy parts where people are paying way more than actual cost to ship when they're nearby, and for the .99 Buy It Now auctions that do not allow local pickup (so they can make their money on the shipping).

But I sell on eBay and for smaller stuff I have a fixed rate. If it's gonna cost me $8 at the most to send a hood ornament (or whatever) I'll just put $8 and then everyone knows up front how much it's gonna cost if they can't pick it up themselves. I don't see how that's a scam. It takes a lot of time to get shipping estimates for everyone and eBay doesn't offer a shipping calculator with FedEx (as far as I know)

 

We do both, on some items we have a fixed rate, on most we do actual. The only problem with actual, is 4000 guys write wanting to know EXACTLY what the shipping is before anyone has even bid. We have boxed stuff up so we can get a price and still not sold it basiclly wasting our time. Some "fixed rate" is with the new USPS boxes, it is a flat rate no matter how heavy it is. These actually are the same shipped across town or across the US. These boxes often save money for my customers because steel chassis brackets get HEAVY.

 

On anything I have checked, that calculator is way off too, in either direction.

 

I didnt mean USPS Fixed rate boxes, or shipping out small parts.
I set the shipping on those items too.

I'm talking about the radiator I wanted to buy that was about an hours drive away. No discount for pick up, and he wanted 50 bucks to ship it to me. Or headers that are $60 fixed from Arizona.

It would have cost about 20 bucks, which is OK, and worth it to me instead of driving for it. (which wouldnt have saved me any $$ anyways).

Looking up shipping is part of the gig.
Estimate dimensions, weigh it, include weight for packing materials and write it down.
It takes a matter of a few minutes to do.
Including the approximate weight and dimensions, as well as your zip code will allow your buyer to look it up themselves.
I rarely spend more than 10 minutes a day doing that with 40-50 items on at the same time.

i understand a business needs to recover time spent packing and shipping as well as materials, but then state a set handling fee.
Its the guys that outright screw people to make extra that are wrong.

 

The only packing material I buy is tape, and that is just part of doing eBay in my opinion. There is a world of free bubble wrap, boxes and stryofoam peanuts. Unless you're build in a wood crate charging a boxing fee just sounds wrong to me. Pick ups at my place are fine, saves the time of packing.

 

when i was in college, i wrote a paper addressing this issue, and how if someone was selling knick-knacks or used videos, etc on ebay they could make a almost double their money by posting they have fixed shipping prices...not ethical, but it was an idea, sounds like someone got hold of my paper.

 

I have had problems with UPS many times. I get the best rates and times from DAHL. I was tracking a package being sent to me via UPS ground and it sat in a terminal two hundred miles away for three days because they had originally estimated 7 days and wanted to make sure it didn't arrive too early.

With all the bad UPS does have some really good people and my route man is one of the best, he does not hesitate to go the extra mile. If I am not home he will swing by later that afternoon just before he returns to the terminal and make another attempt to deliver the package on time.

dave

 

AMEN!

I'm nearly exclusively a buyer & I get ripped all the time. I even go so far as to tell folks how much it will cost to ship to me in my first email to them.

I will break it down by pounds for small stuff & show where the "break" is when the new flat-rate boxes should be used. I provide links to all the sites & sources. Some folks still don't get it.

I really despise those mailboxes etc/ups stores. They charge insurance to the seller (which gets passed on to me) & then when there's a claim, they don't pay - and they're not using USPS insurance. That AND lazy folks let them pack it & pass the costs on to the buyer.

The other thing that really pisses me off is I always pay extra for Priority Mail because the difference in delivery time to me is about 5 weeks. Yet some idiots pocket the difference in postage & ship it parcel post - like I won't notice.

I've gotten to where I keep a damn excel spreadsheet on what folks charge & what the postage actually is & then call them on it when it's excessive. I don't mind someone rounding up or adding a buck or two, but double & triple?! I usually try to call them on it beforehand when I know it's way out of line...

Back to the topic - I hate UPS. Expensive shipping for crap service. Overseas stuff is absolutely stupidly expensive - sometimes it seems cheaper to fly yourself & hand-carry your parts!!

 

Holy shit! I read about the first 15 pages before I ran out of time! That's amazing! ...and a little bit scary.

 

I buy and sell on eBay. I usually offer a fixed rate that is in most cases dead on with the post office. there are some that want me to ship another way and I will ship it however they want it.

There has been times I have looked at something and the shipping is outragous. I will usually contact the seller before bidding and call them on it it. If they change their rates I will bid on it. If not, well there always someone else on there that will have it.

I have found though that FedEx has the best rates byfar on shipping large or heavy items. Plus UPS here has a policy that stems far prior to 911 to "inspect" packages before shiping them out to "make sure they are properly packaged".

I have wanted to bag up some fresh dog poo and have the counter guy check that one. that would be hilarious...

 

I can't imagine where the 400 bucks is coming from. I sent '46 drums/hubs over there cost about $65, back plates and all would have been under a hundered. That's parcel post, but the disparity is too huge. Went to a car club guy in Sweeden. And I still have his lug nuts and not his adress, so if he see's this and wants them....PM

 

I think sometimes a little profit is built into these "shipping charges", but what are you going to do? I remember more than once buying a 50.00 hood scoop (for example) from unlimited fiberglass and paying 50.00 or more for boxing and shipping. Prices look real good in a ad or catalog but then they zap you with that. You cant tell me its alot of effort to box something up and glass weighs next to nothing. just hidden profit.