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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Ironmonger, Dec 6, 2013.

  1. wade57
    Joined: Nov 17, 2010
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    from BC Canada

    A nice built hemi looks better than a dimond ring anyway. BUILD THAT HEMI BOY.
     
  2. Ironmonger
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    Anyone ever heard of Eddie Haines also known as HemiHaines? how is his work n how are his prices?
     
  3. Saxman
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    Man, I LOVE stories like this, especially with PICS!! Thanks for sharing!!
     
  4. A.A.Additude
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    HemiHaines website is the bomb, this guy looks like the goto man for Hemis, clean shop!! I visit his website just to read often. not too many people would just give away little secrets and do***ent almost the whole build on their site. makes me just want to send him my engine and wait for a phone call to tell me its broke in and ready to ship, but I know I can't afford that haha

    I am going to tackle rebuilding my Industrial Hemi this spring. its in great shape.. I got the Tex Smith hemi book and it is awesome too. lots of great info.

    Just to give you an idea on parts prices.. I just created my list and it includes all the little parts you will need internally new pistons but not new rods, bearings, converted oil pump, etc etc,, . I came up with around $4500 in just parts no machine work
     
  5. George
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    You seen 73RRs cap conversion to use the M-50?
     
  6. A.A.Additude
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    from NE Kansas

  7. I'm curious to see how this engine. Looks cleaned up and magnifluxed!

    The sad thing is that the car was parked there for a reason usually for a serious mechanical reason!

    Posted using Full box of Crayons on the Kitchen Walls App!
     
  8. Dog_Patch
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    So that's what an Oxbow is. Good find.
     
  9. Ironmonger
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    Ok, that was my impression of his sight too, really thorough and really kind of him to show a lot of his tips. I'm thinkin I will send my rockers to him, I like his heat treating! :) As far as cost, I will probably flip a car to fund it...haha. I have Tex's book as well. Ya, I am scared of what magnaflux is going to show, we will see

    As far as my salvage story so far, it's better than fiction.....lol
     
  10. Ironmonger
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    Thanks 73RR for the tips n leads :)
     
  11. 73RR
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    Happy to help!

    (we also do rocker arm rebuilding and mechanical conversions...;))

    Gary
     
  12. Ironmonger
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    Pics of the car afterwards..... I actually managed to save mutiple pieces of trim from the doors. I also have the fender eagles cleaned up and on my shelf for fun.
     

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  13. big M
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    Looks like more was ruined than was saved.

    ---John
     
  14. George
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    Seriously, did they run over it with a dozer getting the engine out?:eek:
     
  15. Ironmonger
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    No, a backhoe ripped it apart and apart it came like a wet tissue box.......kinda happens when the car is completely full of silt and structurely rotted ;)
     
  16. Ironmonger
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    I think I need to sell my first born child ( when it comes into this world) just to fund this.....holy jesus expensive. I know I was warned but still.... what a sticker shock!....haha :)
     
  17. George
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    it's enough to make a chevy fan faent(sp?)!:eek::cool::)
     
  18. 64sshemi
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    from weare n.h.

    I've been thinking this same thing for years, The nitromethane gods must have killed them all off by now but they just keep being found!!
    And on the seventh day God created the Hemi!!:eek:
     
  19. 4tford
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    It will all be worth it when you hear that ****er fire up!
     
  20. My Dad would say that the 392 Hemi had some of the best engineering / quality steel / well made parts for it's time... If I remember he said it was not a big money maker for mother MOPAR. The 392 Hemi in my 1936 Ford three window has not been run since, we removed from my dads 1957 Chrysler convertible. That I totaled In 1965.

    With any luck I will have it running soon.
     
  21. scootermcrad
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    Fantastic save! Looking forward to following the build. Make sure you post lots of pictures, updates, and definitely read through the tech archives. If you don't see what you're looking for, make sure to ask or start a new thread and it will get linked into the Hemi Tech archive.

    As already mentioned, the Tex Smith series book on Early Chrysler Hemis is a MUST BUY. Great information and a great read, and at least one of the HAMBers that replied above has his very own words in that book. :)

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    This book has dramatically gone up in price, for some reason. A year ago it was $35. I'm guessing they are still working on an updated release. Worth contacting the publisher. They were very friendly last time we talked. This really is an essential book. Hope they get things in gear.
     
  22. Should have posted here before killing that car, some trim pieces are tough to come by and worth a few bucks. Rear plate surround is a big one. Front fender stainless that's not creased is another. The headlight surrounds, too, although if they've been wet a few times they were probably shot. The rear window surround stainless is unique to 4-door hardtops. Straight bumpers can be expensive too.

    Usually what rots out on those is the rear half of the frame and floors, that seems to have come out in a lot closer to one piece than I'd expect.
     
  23. George
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    Mopar kept redesigning the hemi. 331 2 bl 51-3, '54 4 bl 331 one yr only, '55 331 one yr only, '56 354 one yr only, '57-'58 392 two yrs only. see the problem?
     
  24. 73RR
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    ...and that is just the Chryslers...:eek:
     
  25. George
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    & not mentioning the truck, marine & Industrials, all with variations.
     
  26. enloe
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    AWESOME COOL STORY
     
  27. I had a nice, two hour reply all typed out... But it cut the cheese then was lost. I noted a auto save feature on the draft. But who knows where they are auto saved to??? Second try.

    Those out there who are thinking of building a neat 392. Don't be shy, beat the bushes for the parts. If you saved all of your paper route money, then invested in silver and gold coins, you did it right.

    For the rest of us, think in the long term. Say $200.00 a month and up for a few dogs ages. With out the desire, we would all be driving lowered, chopped Yugo's.

    Be aware that some of the for sale 392 items have seen some very hard life's. Until a piston or connecting rod windows the block. A lot of hidden wear and tear, damage can be just out of sight.

    Remember your elbow grease is free. (though your torn rotor cuffs... are also free. Just not free, to fix ;)).

    Pick up a dial caliper, plus the proper factory shop manuals. Check / measure all of the parts before you drop a big knot of cash on your dream parts. The cost to resleeve 16 worn out lifter bores or replace / resleeve three or four whipped cylinders adds up fast. I have found that some of the used 392 crankshafts do not ring out true. Also some look good, but have been twisted. Unless you like rusty lawn art, do your home work.

    Ask around for the best machine shop. Then go there and have a look see, if you see the boys washing cylinder heads with a garden hose on the floor in the clean room. Smile and be happy your car will not be blessed? with that sweet engine. Then ask how many Hemi engines they have built. That is V8 Mopar hemi engines. You might have to travel to find one. Unless you can afford to let someone learn how its done, out of your pocket.

    If you want to close the hood and hide your 392, on a early Ford. It will need to be closer to where you sit, than to the front of the car. Think ash tray in dash. Unless you want to paint the car in stripes to hide the bulging valve covers poking out of the frame rails. (My wife said look at all of the storage room you have in front of the engine) Yes dear, but between the radiator and the engine might be a little warm for storage.:oops:

    Good night. Back to 210 amp sun tan, mig welder.
     

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  28. I've been deep into these beasts for quite a few years - feel free to 'ping me' at any time. Welcome to the world of Hemi Engines . . . I love them all!
     
  29. Shaggy
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    It should be noted that with a 392, i dont care how bad it is. If it doesnt have a rod out the side of the block, it's usable by someone. I'd take one with all the waterjackets cracked and needing a couple sleeves, it would give me and excuse to build a nitro drag motor, if it was a good price

    Hell one of my best rebuilder 8ba's came out from under a garage rain gutter, i'd seen it under there, in the rain since i was 10 or less years old, hell when we picked it up a frog was living in the water neck..... Turns out a merc crank, solid bottom end, and needs a bit of a bore from water damage, but NO cracks!
     
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  30. kyvetteman
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    Awesome story. What a find! Better go buy a lotto ticket!!
     

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