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New Project: 1939 Ford COE

Discussion in 'The Antiquated' started by vintagehotrods, Aug 22, 2008.

  1. JF
    Joined: May 15, 2008
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    from Utah

    First off, A BIG Thanks to Jerry!! :) for your time in answering some questions I had specifically related to a detailed inspection of this truck before I layed down some green.
    Great thread and info by everyone who has contributed to it.

    I just purchased this truck.
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    Grill is perfect!
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    Are these line going to the heater?? notice the crank drive tach.
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    I have only been dreaming about it for well over a year and it's finally mine!
    maybe someday I will put a pickup bed on it or a rollback or flatbed car hauler but for right now I'll probably just clean this up and use it as is until I finish some other projects. I really shouldn't have purchased another project but I couldn't stop thinking about it and it was a good deal so>>> :D
    If you have gone through the "COE picture thread" which I'm sure you all have then you might remember seeing it?

    Cheers

    Josh

    ps. Jerry how about an update? any new developments with your build?
    Thanks again
     
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  2. vintagehotrods
    Joined: Nov 16, 2002
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    Josh, you got the deal of the year on your COE! If it had gotten away, you would have been crushed. It will be cool just to get it running and have fun with it. Anytime I can help a fellow addict of all things old, especially to buy a cherry old COE, I'm your man! All my projects are on hold, including the COE (I have all my old signs piled up on the back of it now) since I sold my house here and am relocating to Prescott, AZ soon. I'm hoping I have enough room to bring my COE down with my other 13 old cars!
     
  3. vintagehotrods
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  4. DG Racing
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    Hy vintagehotrods so what frame did you use on your orange coe ??
    Wheelbase ??

    nice body that orange

    wich i find one like that
     
  5. vintagehotrods
    Joined: Nov 16, 2002
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    I used a 1974 Chevy Crew Cab Dually Long Box ch***is with the Dana HD 70 differential. The wheelbase is 164.5" and the front track width is 65.8" which is just about perfect because my Eagle 16" alloy wheels just fit within the front fenders.

    Good COE's are still out there and the prices are coming down but you'll have to go out west to find a nice one without a lot of rust.
     
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  6. mart3406
    Joined: May 31, 2009
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    from Canada

    It's not a cabover, but anyone building a hauler
    of any type might want to check out the HAMB
    thread on this build of a '47 Ford 1.5 ton cab
    on a 2-ton Chevy HD Step-Van ch***is with
    a 4BT ***mins turbo-diesel, for some ideas
    and inspiration. It's a long thread - 329 posts
    to date, but with lots of pics and the guy's
    doing absolutely first cl*** work.

    1947 Ford 1.5 Ton 'Heavy'
    Turbo Diesel

    www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=355535&highlight=diesel+47+ford
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  7. 47Ford - 1.5Ton
    Joined: Apr 22, 2009
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    Thanks Mart ! :p

    Let me know if you have any questions vintage hot rod! I'd be more the willing to help!


    ~M
     
  8. Dyce
    Joined: Sep 12, 2006
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    Jerry I have to get up to your shop to see this sometime!! Soon:)
     
  9. vintagehotrods
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    Hi, Jeff! Give me a call this weekend. There's not much progress since the COE project is stuck in neutral until I get moved to AZ. I've got so much stuff piled on it I can't even work on it even if I had the time!
     
  10. Dyce
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    Sounds like my model a. It would take a weekend to dig it out.
     
  11. Jim Egan
    Joined: Dec 16, 2007
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    from Tahuya, WA

    Looks like a fun project. Like you, I have always had an urge to do a COE and a few months ago I stumbled on to a 48 Dodge on a 78 Dodge MH ch***is. I agree with randydupree above, unless you want a low ride restrict your search for a ch***is to 19.5 wheels. Rather than go through all the details of my searc, it is descrived in my "46 Dodge COE" in this forum; I'm off to a slow start but will help if I can. Jim
     
  12. lowcoe
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    My COE sickness is kicking in. Whatever happened here???
     
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  13. vintagehotrods
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    The cabover project is on life support (like my other 5 projects) but I did get back on it lately since I'm done with my move from South Dakota and am finishing setting up my shop. It's only taken me four years! I had just brought the cab down from South Dakota last summer after I sold the crew cab dually ch***is I had it on up there so I didn't have to haul it down here. I found another crew cab dually ch***is that was over in Lake Elsinore, CA that was nicer and already had a 4/6 lowering kit on it. I got the cab back on it with some modification of the frame but I still have to fabricate the mounts do make it permanent. One issue with the lowered ch***is is the track width is too wide to allow the wheels to turn inside the wheel wells without hitting. Right now I've got it sitting out in front of my garage cl***ing up the neighborhood! I want to mid-mount a Chevy 8.1L (496 ci) and an Allison 5 speed right behind the cab under the car hauler deck. On a recent trip I stopped in Yucca Valley, CA to look at this one that was complete with the harnesses and both computers. It had a 140,000 miles on it and came out of a rolled pickup and they only were asking $1500 for everything, I would like less miles though. They aren't too hard to find so I'll keep looking. They are an beast of an engine, one of the few that will p*** the marine 1000 hour full throttle test. I have one in the motorhome and it does a great job pulling its 22,000 lbs and my towed Suzuki Samurai around. Here's a few pics of the COE as it sits today:
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  14. lowcoe
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    Thanks for the update. I think others have widened the front fenders you just have to make sure the doors will clear. I wonder if that would be enough in your case. Carry on!
     
  15. rusty1
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    sold this one to a guy in Missouri, he made it into a car hauler, sorry, don't know any details tho.
    toms coe 041.jpg toms coe 129.jpg
     
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  16. vintagehotrods
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    I'd like to find a way to narrow the track by changing the hubs or the a-frames. I've seen some the guys that extremely lower crew cab dually's do it but I haven't been able to find much info on how they do it. Let me know if you see anything related to that. Widening the fenders is an option but the door clearance problem limits that too.
     
  17. lowcoe
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    Pick up a low rider magazine, tell your wife it's not for the girls hanging over the trunks, look in the add in the back I bet they have all sorts of suspension mods that would help.
     
  18. Houseoffords
    Joined: Jul 9, 2015
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    Do you have any of the lenses left for the coe application please advise james.j.pellegrino@jci.com
     
  19. Houseoffords
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  20. Constructionbob
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  21. jackalope
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    I want to get this thread started back up. I am trying to build a 47 Ford COE. Started a build thread but that landed in the Antiquated Forum. I would love to find a source for sheet metal parts if there are places anymore. I have been making all my parts up to the point. Only have a little left to work on and then it'll be off to blast.
     
  22. I am building a 1939 Chevy COE. I found a chase off a 1980 Chevy 30' step van, (A P30 frame) It works perfect. My C4 Corvette L98 motor is still under the cab & I still have the original floor in front of the bench seat, & she is in the weeds..
    With all the air out of the air ride I can put it through a standard 7' tall garage door with room to spare.
    You may have P30 frame rails under your truck right now. They are 7" tall frame rails.
    My advice would be to buy a running driving truck/chase & sit your cab on it. save a lot of time, money & headaches. Putting the motor behind the cab kinda defeats the O in COE, LOL.. But it's all good.
    I saw two COE's in one of your photos, did you get both trucks? If the price is right, you may want another parts cab???
     
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  23. Hello,

    my Name is Ingo, i own a 47 Ford COE.
    Do you have an idea where to get a Windshieldframe Rubberseal?
    It seems there are no originals and no Aftermarket for this Truck on the market, but maybe you know which Rubberseals may fit? .... fron any other vehicle perhaps?

    Thanks for your help

    best
    Ingo
     
  24. vintagehotrods
    Joined: Nov 16, 2002
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    I would expect the windshield frame in a COE to be the same as a 3/4 T or 1 T truck, because Henry liked interchangeability in everything he built. If you find a a regular truck you could see if it measures the same as a COE. Another way to check is to look up the original Ford part number and check what it fits. I sold my COE but I did a search and found some info for you.

    Dennis Carpenter says this fits all trucks. I'd call them to make sure.

    https://www.dennis-carpenter.com/tr..._vl20sPLFWRmgK6UUyxjrahhSJDWDngMaAkUOEALw_wcB

    On Ebay, probably the same thing.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1910478308...M8HUdOH4lAhUV6nHBO43HTGcQtLlOQYQaArNZEALw_wcB

    This is a Steele Rubber Products part on Ebay. Scroll down and they give the measurements of it. Measure your COE and compare. You could contact Steele directly too.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/3930300181...UCHMrVrboqXY65s7z8gScBWW2TIXNddcaAhZxEALw_wcB

    Or you try to repurpose something similar. I would also check with gl*** shops that work on large trucks or construction equipment.

    https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1590132-1947-ford-cabover-windshield-frame-seal-gasket.html

    Good luck!
     
  25. wow thats some Info i will check!

    Thats in FTE is my thread also ;-)
    Thank you very much
     

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