Hi I'm building a 1935 Ford and wanting to build a traditional style car. (Dropped axle & four bars)! Does anyone make a complete front end to suite what I'm after? I have found that allot of people use 34 ford front crossmember's & front ends! Would really appreciate your feedback Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
http://www.ch***isengineeringinc.com/forged-i-beam-axle-front-end-kit-1935-1940-ford/ all you will need is a 37-41 Ford wishbone, and you can decide if it needs to be split or not based on the motor you run...
I am running a posies spring, superbell axle and 39 shock brackets in my 36. See no reason to change to 37 up Wishbone, works just fine. Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
I vote for dropping the four-bars. Any reason you are wanting them? Think it would add a lot to the cost and complexity of the build and decrease it's value (to anyone interested in traditional hotrods). Especially on a 35, I would really go traditional on that one.
I'm calling Bull **** on that one! Roth used a 4 bar on the outlaw....built in 1959. they were very common on Indy cars in the 50's Pete and Jakes introduced theirs in 1974....over a decade before I was born. I think Grabowski and Ivo used them too... ****... Millers used a quarter elliptic 4-bar in the 20's. Here is a copy and paste of some pictures JimmyB posted. 1951 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/jimmyschev/Hot Rods trend book 102/hotrods-pg-54.jpg 1951-52 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/jimmyschev/Hot Rod Mag/fredcarilloTroadster-2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/jimmyschev/Hot Rod Mag/fredcarilloTroadster.jpg http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4135/4899223871_be9bc04cce_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/12226979@N03/4899223871/) DSCF1018 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/12226979@N03/4899223871/) by Jimmy Bs 1925 Chev (http://www.flickr.com/people/12226979@N03/), on Flickr So yeah.....
It's cheaper to have your axle dropped than to buy a new one. And it'll be a better axle. Use a reverse eye spring and you'll be low enough. If necessary you could split the bones but it's a bit involved on the later, spring in front of axle cars. You'll either have to heat and bent the perches or v-cut and weld the bones about 6 inches back from the axle. That's my preferred approach because it allows maximum steering. However you shouldn't need to split them with a dropped axle - their position doesn't change. Twitter @edsrodshop
@ Hitchhiker. Sure there have been four bar solutions for a hundred years, if you're counting semi elliptical springs, but I think the OP is considering some cheesy TCI type four bar solution which isn't traditional. Also this is a 35 Ford, not some hi tech Indy car. Ed Twitter @edsrodshop
I'm just getting at that saying "four bars aren't traditional" is a blanket statement that is obviously wrong and is p***ing along incorrect information. Some very well known "traditional" cars used that design. that being said, yes, the street rod type 4 bars are not cool.
Also, look at Ivo's and Grabowski's. They are in the neighborhood of 40-44" length, (I recall laying out 'von' Franco's just prior to his moving the project) Very unlike the 24" 'stubbies' that originate from a Mustang box-on-its-side...
Just a thought but 1935 up to 48 used a spring ahead of the Axle 34 was mounted along the axle centerline. The easy way out is to use a reverse eye spring posies or have your main leaf reversed or have a new one built, install a 4" dropped Axle (Magnum/Speedway CE etc.) new king pins on the spindles (after "dropping the arms) and if you are changing the engine/trans combo split the Bones with a kit available from Speedway/CE and away you go I have done that on my '41 Pickup and '40 coupe and they had the right stance. Oh I used the CE front shock kit, sweet especially with a CE sway bar.
if you got a original ch***is with rear mount for wishbone use a original 35 front end get Garry Page to fix your axle and stubs ,get some 46 aussie front shock brackets ,make your axle into a aussie 40 type (pm for how )some ww2 jeep shocks and all is fixed ,re suspension ,then a hq box the one with least turns mate she is done
That's what I did on my '36. I whittled the stock truck spring down to 6 leaves from the original 13, split the bones to accommodate an engine/trans change. rides just fine and was very simple to do. Even though I prefer stock/split bones or hairpins I agree about 4-bars being as traditional as any other method. They've been around a long, long time.
My vote is for the split bones thinking that the MAJORITY of us would call that "TRADITIONAL" I have a very HARD STANCE on fenderless Fords & Its my "OPINION" so there is no open discussion and that is I DONT CARE IF IT WAS CARVED OUT OF A ONE PIECE HUGE BLOCK OF ALUMINUM OR ANYTHING THEY SHOULDNT HAVE INDEPENDENT FRONT SUSPENSIONS ON THEM
Hi everyone thank you for your feedback. It is a fully fended car. I want to purchase something new as the old stuff has been modified over the years by someone with no idea. Thanks Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
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