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Technical What grade of bolt is needed for a small block chevy intake?

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  1. Jay Tyrrell
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    Just installing an aluminum intake on a 327 small block chevy. I wanted to know the torque spec and what grade of bolt should I use? Thanks Jay
     
  2. Minimum of grade 5.
    Some thread sealant on the threads and a dab of anti seize at the shoulder.
     
  3. rjaustin421
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    Grade 5 is fine for the intake, install washers under the bolt heads to get a better torque & to avoid tearing up the manifold. 30-35 lbs. of torque is fine & put a light coat of silicone on the gasket around the water p***ages on the heads if the intake gaskets you are using does not have sealer built into it.
     
  4. 325w
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    Chevy shop manual has sequence to follow also. But who ever does that.
     
  5. Jay Tyrrell
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    Thanks for the info! Sealer is built (made) into the gaskets Fedlpro 1204s so i guess I don't have to add "The Right Stuff to the gaskets. Glad that grade 5 are good enough. Got lots of those and washers. Someone told me before to use grade 8 whey so high?

    Jay
     
  6. rusty rocket
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    All it has to do is seal not hold a rotating m*** from exiting out the side of the block.
     
  7. At 35 lbs torque, grade 5 is more than adequate. Grade 8? Why? Not a shear problem, no friction cutting into the shank by an aluminum manifold.
     
  8. 39 Ford
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    If 5 is good 8 MUST be better, just another stupid idea. Actually 5 is a bit of overkill, as they just keep the manifold sealed, but they would be my choice, new of course.
     
  9. Don's Hot Rods
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    Toss the rubber end seals out and use The Right Stuff instead. It will seal better and fill irregularities that the rubber won't. I haven't used end seals since I discovered The Right Stuff.

    I would still put some sealant around the water p***ages, and torque the bolts according to this sequence:

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    Do it in 3 steps.........first at 15 pounds, then 25 pounds, and finally 35 pounds.

    Don
     
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  10. k9racer
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    After a few heat cycles re torque the bolts. I always do.
     
  11. proartguy
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    Seal the bolts. The seal on the gasket does not seal the bolt holes which can go into the the water jacket. I add sealer around the water p***age openings as well. Just redid one of those because the bolts had leaked.
     
  12. GRX
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    x2 on using right stuff & leaving out the end gaskets. Solves possible fitment issues if some of the iron has been milled.
     
  13. sunbeam
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    X2 on sealer for bolt threads some go to water some go to oil. Ever see a SBC with oil around the center 2 intake bolts on each side and wonder where it came from?
     
  14. patterpillar
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    So does everybody else weld a socket to a short 9/16 box end to torque the 4 center bolts? curious what other guys do
     
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  16. GearheadsQCE
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    Yep, A grade 5, 3/8-16 bolt has a proof load of 6600 psi and a tensile strength of 9300 Psi. A grade 2 is 4250 PL and a 5750 TS.

    I'm sure a grade 2 will hold your intake on and not leak.

    I have used stainless fasteners in non- critical areas for many years and enjoy the benefits of reduced corrosion.

    BTW these are generally slightly stronger than a grade 2.
    I don't buy grade 2 either, but just wanted to point out that in this application you could almost use wooden dowels to hold the intake in place.

    Many years ago, when I was student teaching, I had two students lift an engine by the carburetor studs with NO BOLTS holding the intake. The
    intake had been installed with the old hardening Permatex. #2?
     
  17. Jay Tyrrell
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    Thanks for all the great advice guys! The Right stuff thing is the best. I will also coat the threads of the bolts for a better seal. The HAMB is the best.
    Jay
     

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