can any one save this (project)

saw this on ebay it reminded me of a post I saw here a wile back the guy had an old impala and had the floors rockers and quarters cut off. thought he maybe looking for a new project.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1963...ewItemQQcategoryZ39405QQitemZ4592998606QQrdZ1


bret

 

I've seen rare cars restored around a door hinge. But to do that, you actually need a door hinge to start with!

That could be the roughest restoration project I've ever seen. No fender tags--and to Mopar Guys, those are all-important.
Might have a couple body numbers stamped elsewhere, but that's it. I can't see that car being worth anything but yard art. Even if it's a factory lightweight, all the factory lightweight pieces are gone. Not even starting with A-pillars and a cowl.
-Brad

 

yea thats what I thought. I thought you guys might get a kick out of it.

bret

 

I wonder how many times that thing hit the wall on its last race!?

 

I wonder how may times this things gonna hit the HAMB?

 

Here is the reply I got when I told the guy, politely, that it was not worth the $2 he spent listing it:

Who knows, it may become someone elses dream!!! At least it is a cheap
dream!!!! Lets see if someone bites on it, at least we are giving her
one last chance to live again. I normally deal in 1906-1927 Ford parts and
I have seen cars that are much worse restored back to there original
condition.

Thanks
Don


Now who has restored worse????? There is no way in heck that that car is restorable.....or worth restoring. I have sold some winners on ebay, that this one will take the cake!

 

Oh............My.........God!!!!!!!!!!!!! No Way!!!!!

 

Yes, it is rough but it is a documented race car. The seller isn't trying to overstate anything, and if someone wanted in on a low buck entry to race car restoration that is a start. If it was a '32 Ford drag car or an Indy car in the same condition we would be watching a bidding war.

 

Hell yeah! I can fix anything!!


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except that.

You at least need a starting place to get to the end, and.....there is no starting place there.

 

Hell, that's an easy fixer.

You simply buy another car that donates a straight body shell, and attach it to the well-documented history of this vehicle...

It does have a well-documented history along with this wadded up ball of rust, doesn't it?

In the food processing world, we call it HACCP (government mandated food processing paper-trail system - absolute bullshit).

 

I sold a 54 Plymouth Plaza 2 door wagon that you could walk into for $80 with a clean title, that car is like a california car compared to this thing.

What's the point of restoring the car? The only way you could do it justice would be to restore it back to it's old time, hemi-powered ass kicking glory, which you couldn't do with this car because the frame is surely rotted as it the cage, and would never pass NHRA specs. The only thing this car is good for is as a template to build a clone out of a solid car.

 

Its a door panel for a toyota.....................say g'bye..........

 

Isnt their someone on here doing a 33/34 ford coupe that was REALLY beat up, it looked like it was rolled down a hill in to a ditch.I believe the last pics he showed, he had it strightened around pretty good.Anything can be fixed it you have the drive and desire too.I seen a guy fix a 40 willy's coupe that was alot worse than that car.I thought this willy could never be saved but he proved me wrong,(With very basic tools).It would be neat to see someone fix that thing,But because it has no tags or anything else , it will probably be crushed.

 

why fix it? if i had a huge house i would put that as is in the living room with a huge photo of the original scaled up and printed in scale 1:1 and put on the wall behind it... its a cool piece of art object,

 

Starting bid: US $99.99

and besides that "100" dollars starting bid, i've seen people pay way more for shit,

cool as hell to have an old racer like that in the living room

 

It has value as a template. The history is nice but incomplete. JUst how did it get from 1966 to this? Not a significant racer with big time status but unusual enough and pretty early.

If it was a Sox and Martin or such it would get some attention. Fender tags don't mean much in this case since it was altered so highly from new. Nobody cares if it came with rear defogger, Gator Grain roof, tampon tamper, or flourine charged bumper jack. It does have the trunk mount for the battery and I've never seen the swiss cheese on one of the 62-64 era b-bodies. You can find numbers on top of radiator support, oops, or left rear frame rail, uhhh, and one other place that they won't let us mention to non-believers.

For $99.99 you could get it and hang it from your shop rafters, if you had room and a sense of humor. I don't have the room.

Gentlemen, there is one thing we can all agree upon. It's got "je nais se quois" PATINA!

Thanks for posting this.

 

Psychodaemon has the right idea.

 

You know that is a GREAT idea! Buy it have it crushed into a cube place the period photos in top and fill the top with some clear plastic = coffee table.

 

i think it looks damn fine right where its at.

 

Factory Lightweight....that's an understatement.

BUT......I suppose the stuff we start with and resurect ,seems Kinda nutty to other folks in the car hobby, too!

 

yeah well thats a solution if you live in a small apartment, its cooler thought o keep it intact as is

 

Is this a joke? I would charge him just to haul it off.

 

Looks like it's got a cool steering wheel on it, and shit, it's only $100. If it was in my backyard, I'd buy it. I'd use the steering wheel, column, maybe the best pieces of the rollbar tubing on a rod project, just to say that those parts came off of a 60's superstock Mopar drag car, and I'd have some documentation too.

Or if I was building a clone superstocker, I'd find a way to use some of the metal that's left on the car so at least it has 'some' original superstock stuff on it. Trunkpan looks solid too.

I like the living room display too. If it were crushed into a cube, it'd weigh 1000 pounds but be 3 feet by 3 feet (or whatever) so I'd be a little concerned about bringing it into the house.

But who cares, shit, it's only $100. You could buy it, crush it or dump it off in the woods behind grampa's house, and brag to all your friends that you used to own a factory lightweight Mopar drag car. Just the bragging rights are worth the price. I'd buy it if it were just down the road.

 

hell yeah i could just bid on it to just own it and let anyone have it for free so i could atleast truthfully claim i owned a once hemipowered drag

 

OUCH, WHAT ARE THEY THINKING, DO THEY WANNA DENT THE ROOF

 

At least the guy doesn't think it's worth 80 bazillion dollars or something, $100 is fair given steel is $70 a ton and it has a few parts on it worth saving.


Probably the best way to fix it would be to do like they do to late '50's convertibles, take all the unique pieces off this and put them into another body shell. Thats about what you'd have to do anyways by the time you tried to fix the pans and quarters and so on. Now if you'd seen some of the pieces of rusty junk I've sold - for a lot more money - you might not think this was so bad. Although the best example was a car I saw on eBay a while back - a '59 Caddy convertible. But all it was was the cowl top, windshield frame, doors, and a rear tub section with the top bows and wheel wells but the quarters cut off it. No dash, no firewall, no trunk - no floors or frame either. It sold for something like $3800. I know where there's one of those rotting, it temps me to look it over better now (I've ignored it before as it's pretty well stripped of most of the $$$ stuff).


And yeah, the one guy is right - if it was a '32 Ford coupe, it would have 50 bids on it already and be about 50 times the price of that by now.

 

I have a friend (who runs a body shop) who restored a 61 Ford Starliner that wasn't much better than that car. It was a documented car that was supposably the last car to ever make the flying mile on Daytona beach and was pictured on the cover of a book about the roots of NASCAR. I think the drivers name was White? Maybe Don?
Anyway when I helped my buddy load the rusted bent shell onto a trailer, I thought he was nuts. He had a perfect car to use as a "donor". I told him he should just switch the cowls, install the racer goodies and call it done. But the guy who was footing the bill wanted to use as much of the originial car as possible. It eventually got done but I don't know how much it cost. My buddy had actually worked on the pit crew of the car when it was first built, so it was kinda sentimental for him. They even tracked down the racer and had him put the title in his name and then transfered it back so the title would have the racers name on it as previous owner.

 

Aw........what the hell......its only a 100 bucks....

 

No way...that car has had it. I am charmed by Mopar devotion but I think that car is one step beyond.

 

So lemme get this straight...some hardcore dealer-related guy in new england gets a wild hair up his ass to go racin in 1965, they take a used 63 Plymouth, hack the shit out of it to copy what Ramchargers and Chrysler were already doing...well sort of...stuck a Hemi and a 65 front end on it, and now it's a piece of history.

Well the story does have a "romantic" tone regarding nostalgia racing. I guess if I was stuck with 50k worth of real 60's race stuff I'd use that car as a base...





































Yeah, right.