hey guys, just doing some messing around trying to figure out what makes the car in the black and white look so nastey and came up with this hacked together pick-the color one. whats different? does the black one have more of a rubber rake? does the black one have more of a suspension rake? does it have more of a rake in the channel? does the black one have a slanted chop? ........or are they preety much the same and its just the photo angles making it look way different? just trying to figure out what makes that car jump out at me thanx tim
oh, and could it be the m***ive motor sitting down low in it making all the differnce? the front end being a touch further back? thoughts?
I think its a combination of many small things. 1) the black car has plates on it, the white one, who knows? 2) the wider grill on the black one looks more in porportation to the rest of the car, where the narrow grill on the white one looks too thin. 3) the black one has headlights. 4) the white one has clean exhaust pipes, who cleans exhaust pipes? makes you wonder if they are real or fake. 5) the back ground makes a huge difference, if the white car was in the same setting as the black one, it might look better.....or not. 6) the black one is the real deal, the white one looks like it is trying to be. Thats my 2 cents. Gene
THATS the deal right there. From the overly polished wide whites to the clean INSIDE the pipes, that thing looks like a streetrodders car...done up to look like a real hotrod. Someone should let him know its ok and cool for a hotrod to not be perfect, fact is they SHOULD look a little used and rough. Thats just how a real, driven hotrod is. To me, that thing looks like it rolls off a trailer and gets put in the shows.
1. The lighter car is UNFINISHED. 2. The darker car is in a period black & white photo. 3. Modern car show invironment verses mid 50's street invironment. 4. Pontiac motors "don't get no respect". 5. The rat rod style headers and sunvisor don't cut it. 6. The photoshopped "grille" on the lighter car.
i don't think the white one is done, lotsa missing parts (not) visible. white one is a 30/31, black looks to be a 28/29. maybe it's the transposed picture of the white one?
White one: Paint Chrome wheels Raised motor Show car or drag car? Incmplete poser Black and White one: Black and white Evil looking characters Hemi Driven car Hemi Primer Lower Hemi PS Doesn't look any better without the picture being backwards and why is the picture's file name "movedfrontsuspen"?
Actually I think its just the shape of the grill shell and the low set headlights that do it. Everybody tends to see human expressions in a car. Why else would an inanimate object be described as "mean" or "nasty". The top edge of the grille has that angry eyebrow angle to it, or some might think it resembles gnashing teeth. If you put your thumb over the grill, both cars look pretty much the same. Now I'm going to go psycho-****yze my toaster...
WHOA whys everybody down on the white one?? take a look at the post about it, it's a nice car with lots of details something different for a powerplant, the reason it's so clean is it's not finished, as in has really been driven...**** i've cleaned my whitewalls does that make me a street rodder, so come on guys lets stop jumping to coclusions 5. The rat rod style headers and sunvisor don't cut it. P.S. what the **** are rat rod style headers any way?^^^
Right on. Can you blame a guy for wanting something besides a small block chevy in his rod? Trying to compare those photo's is apples and oranges. Real deal from back in the day, or not even done and run yet? They are both killer cars, and why you gotta go **** with Pontiac motors??
The crudely wacked off 35 grille and shell are the least appealing part of the car in the mid 50's photo, IMHO. Kind of a shame they did that to something as great looking as a 35 grille. Just proves a lot of the cars built "back in the day" were far more crude and rude than we might want to believe now. As far as the unfinished light coloured car, I simply meant to imply that the misaligned, stubbed off header pipes and the visor treatment seemed out of place on what appears to be a very nicely built, very traditional style hotrod. Could it be the headers are unfinished (like the car)? Being that a fuel injected 421 is going in mine, the point about the motor was sarcastic.
The light color one is a sweet ride...I'd love to own it! The "dark one" (gulp) DOES have that something extra... I think it's engine placement and m*** for the most part, a somewhat broader stance (might be just the photo), the tiny headlights and the wider grille for the big rad. All road equipment is just to p*** code and the funky grille just hides a funkier radiator that an A or Deuce shell wouldn't fit around. The whole thing just has a single purpose look. Go FAST or die tryin'. Surprisingly, I like the fenders! I think that evil coupe would look good even with a very hacked set of rear ones. But lets face it...it's that HEMI valve cover equipped SBC that really does it!!!
I noticed that right away too I think the radiator shell contributes to the look too along with the engine placement and headlilghts.
Played with them in photoshop -- turned white coup's pix B/W, lightened the background, etc. The black one seems a little lower than the white -- compare guys leaning on the black with the firesuit dummy behind the other. Could be lens/angle but seems to me the black is a little lower. Engine in Black is definatly lower in bay Could be the cool dudes leaning on it too!
My take: The black car's lower engine, combined with the grille shell, gives the car a different look. The different year cowl styles give the cars different looks. There's more rake in the chop in the black car. --Matt
Why is everyone suddenly bashing the white car. You can't have a constructive comparison on styles without talking ****? Isn't that a HAMBer's car? I saw a thread on it just the other day. There is nothing poseur or gay about that car! Is it pink? does it have tweed interior? WTF? IMO, the "chopped up truck grill that looks like ****" MAKES the car! It's got a hemi. A hemi is a wider motor. It needs a wider shell. Too street rod... give me a ****ing break. Thread on the white coupe.
What's the difference?? Color! Black is evel White is good You guys are color blind. The white car looks like gray primer to me and unfinished. It's well on it way to being a VERY cool car. I know the dark car is a true 50's car but those headlights are just so wrong. That and the grill is too far forward or the axle is too far back. Something is just a little wrong there for me. Clark
I think that this has a lot to do with the appearance. In art school this was called foreshortening. Notice that angle of the front wheel, light one turning into the picture and and the dark one turning out. The dark one looks like it is in a four wheel drift because of the angle of the wheel. The light one looks like it is standing still with the front wheel turned out like it was posing for the picture. Angles in a painting or photo are very important. All of the other things play a part, but at***ude makes the picture
Well... The old one definitely has it's charm, lookin really cool in the pic. But once you start pickin it apart, cut off frame rails, hacked up grill shell etc. Probably a crude ride, but it's got at***ude & stance, it's a HOT ROD! And it's really appealing... The "light colored" car... When I saw the thread on it earlier this week I first thought it looked really good, nice stance, cool wheels & tires, looked right. But what turned me off was when I saw the flames in the wishbones, spider webs & iron crosses all over the thing. I just don't get it, the car looked fine without all that...
the cold harsh distorted digital image snapped at a car show is no fair comparison to the warm glow of the nostalgic Kodak paper image taken from waist high with a leather covered wooden box the florescent light and mannequin add to the jarring angularity, stabbing the viewer in the eye, a harsh picture indeed whereas, the natural light and relaxed human figures, with genuine pride showing in their facial expressions plays on the positive memories in the viewers mind, relaxing and comforting also, the old one does have a bit of body rake, a wide Hemi motor with no setback, and the wide grill and headlights which do create the familiar arraingment of the subconsciously recognizeable facial image the camera, it's operator and setting are primarily to blame for not showing that in the new car
so looks like motor and body rake make the biggest difs right now. the reason im asking is thats how id like to build one and seeing as the owner of that black car surely isnt on the hamb i figured id change the wheel base on white one--thus the name of the file, i fliped it because then i could go between the two photos and try to catch the differnces with out having to mess with witch way it was facing. but anyways, figured id change the wheel base on the white one and continue to tweak it ever so slightly because it was preety close in over all purportions and ect. so with my small list of mods--like i know how much i re-choped it and moved the front end back, i could then talk to the owner of the white car via the hamb and figure out how he built stuff like what size tires hes running, what axel and step ect. then i take all that , add what i wanted to change, and ive got a recepie for something nastey and black. the reason i started the post wasnt to bash on anyone, it was to see whos got a good eye and could figure out what exactly the other was missing because other then the obvious photo angles and settings there is something differnt between the cars. its sounding like motor size and placment, some body rake, and a fater shell? anymore constructive thoughts?
The visor is period, it's youngsters, that were born after the period and try to re-write history to fit their taste, that don't recognize that. Rat rod style headers?? as opposed to what, street rod? What part of the light photo ain't photoshopped?
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