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  1. Mr48chev
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    Both RB and Rp jive with 327 and match up with the block casting number. Life is good if it is in good shape.

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  2. Mr48chev
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    Now you are going to drive these guys crazy being the guy who bought the 100 buck complete 327 when they are ransoming a kid to buy one.
     
  3. indyjps
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    Looks like RP and a scratch on the deck surface. Need an even better pic, but it's looking good.

    Early 90's I ran across an odd looking set of heads in a s**** pile, smallish looking chambers, so I brought them home. '56 vette 2x4 heads, and they magnafluxrd clean.
     
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  4. lippy
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    If the inside looks like the outside, stick it back in a jeep. lol
     
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  6. squirrel
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    The 64 Chevy parts book lists RB as High Perf Manual Transmission 327. That would be the 300 hp engine. I'm pretty sure that's what you have.
     
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  7. Thepartsbinguy1
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    I’ll get a better pic here soon. Although when your standing over the block it looks clearly like RP
     
  8. squirrel
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    this picture clearly shows RB.

    If you look at the number 7, you can tell that the stamp was not flat to the block, the top of the characters is stamped deeper than the bottom. So we'd expect the bottom bar of the B to not show, and the lower right curve to be visible at it's top, but disappear as it goes down. Just like in the picture.

    And besides, the RB code specifies the engine that appears to be what the engine is.

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  9. arkiehotrods
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    My Nomad would very much appreciate a '64 300 hp 327 RB code engine! It would compliment the M-20 nicely and I could use the 350 in something else!
     
  10. The numbers stamped on the block sometimes are not indicators of what the engine started out to be. Back in the 50's and 60's there were a lots of guys working in the GM plants who put anything they got their hands on into these engines.......ditto for the cars. I knew a few of those guys who worked there. You will not know what it really is until you tear it down.

    I have worked on a '56 4 door sedan with a "power pack" engine and a two barrel carb....the car was only 7 years old at the time/original owner. A buddy of mine got a '61 "Vette from the factory with a 327 FI engine....had no idea until he tore it down for a rebuild.....wondered why it was so quick......

    In any event, you got a terrific deal......
     
  11. Thepartsbinguy1
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    I walked over and tried to move the throttle and the carter unstuck itself. That’s kind of worrying because now I don’t even wanna pull it apart past taking the pan off. I bet it just runs.. anyways the mismatch parts idea isn’t out the window to me. Guy was adamant there is a 283 crank in it. The only reason he said he was so sure is because he remembers breaking the original 327 crank and re-doing the engine himself.
     
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  12. saltflats
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    I remember back in the dry pond racing days getting the job of going through the bucket's full of rockers looking for the O's
     
  13. squirrel
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    so it's a 302 now? according to him?
     
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  14. Speed Gems
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    If that's the case then you did get a really good deal because it's now a 301 and it probably is a mixed bunch of parts.
     
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  15. Thepartsbinguy1
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    I posted on this forum awhile back with a picture of the Jeep truck it came out of. Someone else on that post was telling me they would need to swap the pistons to do that. if I pulled a plug and got a picture of the top of the piston could that help with identifying it?
     
  16. 51504bat
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    Or as they were referred to when I was in HS. a 301.:cool:
     
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  17. squirrel
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    you can use 327 pistons with a 283 crank, it's still a 302, but it won't have a lot of compression.
     
  18. Fordors
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    The only difference about the O rockers that I ever heard about was they might (just a rumor?) have been made from a better grade of material. The length of the slot for the stud and the ratio were the same as the garden variety rockers.

    BTW, I sold a set of new O’s, no balls or nuts, for $210 on eBay about 3 years ago. I guess the guy wanted them for a restoration, as if anyone would ever see them :p
     
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  19. gene-koning
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    Looks like just another small block Chevy with a bunch of swapped out parts. In 57 years, its pretty doubtful most of whatever was in it when it left the GM factory probably isn't there any more. Short of a tear down and measurements, its all speculation based on stamps anyone could have hammer in.

    When we were in high school (71-74) my buddy bought a 69 Nova. Typical rusty quarter beater with a sbc and a manual 3 speed trans. He was always talking about all the hi-po parts on that wonderful sbc (other then the chrome air cleaner it looked and ran pretty stock to me), it couldn't take my other buddy's 62 Plymouth with a well worn 318, my other buddy's 69 Mustang with a 351C or my dad's 64 Olds with the 394 4bbl. I was in auto shop and worked at the biggest auto repair gas station in town at the time. Nearly every time a Chevy owner had the valve cover gaskets changed, the covers were cleaned up and the motor got a tune up, the motor suddenly grew into something great. There were a few that could back up their claims, but most couldn't.

    We always let him talk his ****, smiled, and nodded, it made him feel important. A year or two out of HS, he traded in the Nova on a brand spanking new Rally Camaro with a 305. It was the fastest car in the world too. We still smiled and nodded.

    A running v8 of any kind for $100 is a pretty good deal, but I don't buy into all the hype about what the stamped numbers say it may have been back in 1964. Gene
     
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  20. DDDenny
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    I'd like to know how that myth about the long slot started.
    I've heard the main difference was the wear surfaces were more thoroughly polished on the "O" rockers.
    I do have an NOS set on my unfired L79 engine for my Nova but no other new ones to compare them to corroborate.
     
  21. squirrel
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    big blocks had long and normal slots, maybe someone was confused
     
  22. 2OLD2FAST
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    Confused ? That's the understatement of the millennium ! :p
     
  23. Moriarity
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    Maybe we can put this to bed right here. All I have to measure is an “O” rocker and it measured .623 ... does anyone have a std one and a caliper handy?? 48D04B90-A0E8-425A-835C-BB7DC1BA5D8C.jpeg 53585010-F4A3-44BB-9885-AAA32FA8690E.jpeg
     
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  24. The Engine I have in my Merc is a 327/300hp with the Powerglide that came
    out of my 63 Chevy Station Wagon 9 p***. Fully Loaded
    with every Option Chevy could put in a car.!
    It even 4 way Flasher's with the Chevy Emblem on the Front,.

    Just my 3.5 cents

    Live learn & Die a Fool
     
  25. Fordors
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    Good idea @Moriarity , a standard rocker measures .620 9DAD6652-A71C-49C2-9542-62756BB7135B.jpeg
     
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  26. Moriarity
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    so there, no such thing as a long slot factory rocker arm....
     
  27. DDDenny
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    I think I figured it out.

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  28. Thepartsbinguy1
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    Just throw the hole thing away now such a ball buster.. 6A7E7E08-E709-4283-B2DE-C615931ACD88.jpeg
     
  29. how would you even get that out?
     
  30. Wanderlust
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    Smash out the rest of the porcelain, little heat from the torch, spray with kroil or some such let cool and hammer in an easy out ( or easy break). : )
     
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