I agree a later transmission would be better, but I'm trying really hard to keep the parts mix all pre-1932. If I'm going with a later 3-speed, I might as well go with a Volvo 4-speed or an S-10 5-speed. Good choices, to be sure, but out of character with my desired product. -Dave
327- they are worth about 4 cents a pound around here. As Mac says axle shafts break with the stock 36 HP, Drive shaft isn't much better, brakes are outside band type, transmission has some bronze bearings where Ford A has rollers. For what it's worth- rears from any of the Jap pickups that have 6 hole wheels in the '70-'80's are the same bolt pattern- I put longer studs and a large washer (over the studs and hub-between the drum and the wheel- to support the wheel) on an '83 Nissan rear. Herb
And I was just about to ask if you need a 1929 rear end or front springs w/axle? PM if you need anything, I'm running out of shop space, so they are free for the taking.
i've got 40 acres of no rules so if you need, i can haul it away. ..... i'll send a p.m. after i find out when my friend is going thru lower mainland, with truck, thanks again
Fellas, I’m thinking about camshafts again this morning. How close are the Chevrolet cams to a Ford cam from this era? Any chance a Model T cam will drop into the ‘28 block? The T guys love the Stipe 250 and 280 cams for touring and speedster use; it would be great if we could use those. Otherwise, I guess it’s a matter of having one’s stock, original cam re-ground, or having somebody like Roto-Faze create a new blank? -Dave
Never had a T cam to try. Wont work (even if it will fit) on a '27-'28, as there will be nothing on the cam to drive oil pump/distributer Herb
Dema Elgin can build up your cam and regrind it if you want. It takes time as every time it gets welded it needs to be straightened. And time is money. Or Joe Panak can make you a blank and you can take it to your grinder. I would still go to Dema. For a mild street grind I guess you could just have yours reground.
Hey guys, I just thought I'd mention that I got them to add a speedster forum over at VCCA Chat. So if we're stumped on something here, there's now a safe place to post amongst the restorers. -Dave
Interesting, Dave-- A few years back I belonged to the VCCA, and if you said speedster on the chat you nearly got your tongue ripped out. Still lurk there, but the magazine has very little 4 cylinder info, so I dropped out of the org.. Herb
They probably still won't like me, since with 490s being so thin on the ground, I've opted to do a Ford/Chevy hybrid. -Dave
Yup,they seem to be mellowing out... now to get the Dodge Boys to that point... Some years back, the VCCA magazine had a series of articles on an aftermarket speedster body for the early Chevy 4- something like Liberty? If anybody knows what month/year, could you help me out?
Man, I really want to see a Dodge Brothers gowjob. Something like that "Under Budget Underslung" that Hot Rod profiled a while back, but with a Fast Four instead of a 440. But, to keep it on topic, I was researching Nash rockers (turns out you only need them with an Olds head), and all roads lead back to the HAMB. I discovered this pretty-neat engine, though (click back to the original post to see the pictures): Which seems to be adapted for use in a Ford chassis. -Dave
Yikes! Thanks for the wake up there Bigcheese327. I had totally forgot that i had posted that info. Yep it was a really cool loking engine. The lady's husband that owned the engine had passed away and the family was finally getting around to selling his stuff. I really wanted the engine but they were asking $5k if i remember correctly, and i was unemployed. I did end up purchasing an Olds 3-port head and some other small stuff. They also had a real sleeper roadster Model A. All sorts of good stuff under the hood, but outside, it looked like a stocker. Bet it fooled a lot of people when the light turned green. Mike
Just to keep everyone up on the Dodge Bros. deal. I was getting ready to clock in the bellhousing this afternoon when I took my brand new 1 inch stroke indicator out of the box and dropped it. Done for before it ever touched a work piece. I took that as a sign and quit for the day.
Doug, you do know of whom I speak... You and Rich, on the other hand, are the bees knees of the DB crew! Dave, there was an older thread that had a Dodge underslung with (I think) more of a vintage engine... don't remember if it was a Four or not. And sorry that I spoke too soon about the VCCA mellowing out- I lurked your thread earlier today and saw some of the flak you've already caught!
The closest thing I remember is a MoPar lakes modified that was at the Kalamazoo swap meet when I was in college. A very cool car with a flathead six. But then, I don't browse the HAMB like I used to, mainly using Google searches and contributing to threads I'm already on. On VCCA, yeah, some guys weren't happy to see me. There are plenty of T guys that way too, and it's probably a big reason the mods moved my thread. I'm just grateful they created a category instead of locking it. A vintage engine, after all, is a vintage engine. -Dave
Dave, I have to say that you handled the heat well AND it was nice to see a couple of the regulars back you up. I know I'm preaching to the choir, but this idea of going faster is NOTHING new. Gotta laugh about the guys who "only runs original Carter blahblahblah" and passes the guys who run newer carbs. He should have a nice chat with Herb!!!
If you had substituted "distributor" for "BB-1" and "magneto" for "RAKX-0", that was a dead ringer for several mtfca.com threads. I had to laugh when comparing feedback on the stock carburetor to what I've heard on the HAMB. I work right down the street from the old Bay City carburetor plant (that apparently produced Carter designs under license back then), so the idea of running a '20s updraft appeals to me. I wonder if the early Stovebolt carburetors are any better. -Dave
I've been doing some talking with a good friend about a good replacement- if I can find what he's talking about, I'll let you know. The first time I met Herb, we started talking about carbs and I asked him about the RAKX-O. He kinda chuckled and said they would be great for a riding mower
here is my engine in its new home....i found some rockers so all is good , can't wait to race this one day... anyone ever shorten the torque tube on these cars ....i have a 29 rear in thanks to 29bowtie.....thanks
Looking good bct! I was thinking about using a Chrysler radiator shell at one time- I like it! What front axle are you running (forgive me if you've posted it already)?
That looks like a Plymouth axle like the one I have in storage. The nice thing about them is the 5 on 5 1/2" bolt pattern same as Ford. They also have hydraulic brakes that are compatible with '40 to '48 Ford brakes. I lke the Chrysler shell. I've been watching for one of those or a Whippet shell for years. Someday ........... Cool one man body! Any thoughts on the steering yet? I'm using a '51 F-1 with an extended shaft in my '27. Do you have a build tread other that what you've posted here? I'd like to follow this build as close as possible. Ron
thanks , yes it is a plymouth/dodge axle ...the "wavy tube"....1936 i think. all the bits and pieces have been falling into place for a couple years ....i am going to just run hubs and mech. brakes in the back for now....if it doesn't stop well , i will adapt chev spindles and mechanical brakes to the tube axle i still haven't found steering...i was thinking 60s/70s ford truck manual or tri-five chevy as they both have a really long pitman shaft....i need to figure it out soon tho so i can adapt the body to the steering hoop....my biggest problem is the years....everything is from the 20s except the axle.... the body is narrowed 6" at the cowl and then pinched parallel from the A pillars back....the rad shell matches the cowl nice now that it has a small peak in the center due to narrowing no build thread but i'll post the odd progress pic in the "three springer thread" there are some more pics in there now..... i'm looking for a hand pressure pump if anyone has an original to sell....a sprint car style box would be nice to find aswell
BCT, that build is looking awesome. I think it's possible you are the furthest along of anyone besides Herb! Incidentally, if anyone reading this thread has ever wanted to see where his or her engine block was cast, the old Chevrolet Gray Iron Foundry, n/k/a General Motors Saginaw Metal Casting, is offering a tour to the public this Friday. I just saw it on a sign outside the plant gate, and then looked up this article for the express purpose of posting it here: I’m not sure I’ll be able to go, unfortunately, as I have a busy week. -Dave
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