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Projects 1928 Model A 2 dr Phaeton Build

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by caprockfabshop, Aug 17, 2022.

  1. 1-SHOT
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    1-SHOT
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    Looking good you are making great progress.
     
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  2. caprockfabshop
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    Alright gang, needing some input. I'm considering how to do the lower cowl area, in particular where it sits over the frame. Since the frame was pre-assembled, I didn't have any input as to how pinched to make it, and the fitment is rather tight between the leading edge of the cowl and the rails:
    20220930_172048.jpg

    Now, the body and frame will be the same color, so I'm not too worried about that aspect, but I would like to have more room to install and fit the body without scratching the frame or if the body shifts while driving I'm not having it banging on the frame.

    So I'm proposing to relieve the body up to the black line as shown here:
    PXL_20240527_142141717.jpg

    That's ^ the tightest area, and would give far more room to drop the body over the frame without banging into it.

    However, I'm not a fan of the firewall just having a corner missing, so I'm thinking about cutting the lower area on a curve mimicking the upper firewall line, and ending on a straight cut exactly like I need at the leading edge.

    PXL_20240527_142141717.png

    PXL_20240527_142802975.jpg PXL_20240320sss_153808886.jpg

    Give me your thoughts, it does mimic that line where the fuel tank upper meets the firewall sides, and does continue the lower body line at the base of A pillar. So wouldn't be too radically departed from the original Ford design, I'm going to push forward with the rest of the firewall in the meantime.

    Edit: Alternative is like Shine did on his 34 Truck:
    179771_Side_Profile_Web.jpg

    ~Peter
     
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  3. wstory
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    Hope I can clearly articulate my idea.
    Looking at your first photo, I see an offset between the flange and the body of the cowl of about 3/8 inch. How bout moving that surface (the small rectangle) shown in the second pic "out" to be flush with the cowl surface, making a little "step out" to accommodate frame clearance?
     
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  4. ^^^ ditto,needs more chop, that doesn't even look chop'd...
     
  5. caprockfabshop
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    I like that idea, though it would only give an 1/8" or so combined, that might be all I need.
     
  6. caprockfabshop
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    Those are 2" chopped Roadster windshield posts, any lower and the proportions get all weird.
     
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  7. Doug G
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    Depends if you plan on using the hood sides or not ?
     
  8. caprockfabshop
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    No hoodsides, maybe hood top at some point
     
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  9. wstory
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    I like a hood top and no sides. A hood top extends the line, making it a complete car, while no hood sides is a "skirt lifter" exposing enough of a hot rod engine to draw folks in. ;)
     
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  10. caprockfabshop
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    You're the man! That solved my troubles without compromising the appearance. Here's with a quick skim coat of filler for the interim, but that's exactly what I needed! PXL_20240527_231006280.jpg
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    ~Peter
     
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  11. It's yer car, but if it were mine, I'd kept it as a sedan,...lots more weather friendly.


    what did you do with the roof part?
     
  12. caprockfabshop
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    I already have a 1954 Olds for weather-friendly driving, that being said, plenty of guys drive roadsters in all weather...
     
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  13. verde742
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  14. Grumpy ole A
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    I love reading about your build. I bought mine, aviator. It was built in the 60s I think. I have a picture of where it was found in the attic of a garage. It had some changes made to where it is now. It was a coupe that was cut down to a roadster but the doors are thick. I was looking at yours to see how you he’d made your doors like a roadster. Very interesting the way you got it done. Keep up the good work.
     
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  15. Tim
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    Anything new?
     
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