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1929 chevy full sheet metal kit car

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 31ratcoach, Nov 30, 2008.

  1. Ghost28
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    Yeah. I'm gonna use the windshield window riser. I just hope I can get it sealed up from wind and water when it is all finished I am not far enough along to do a tech, but I do have the mechanism installed in the 28 and have all the parts. What do you need to know? Maybe between all of us we can answer your questions...John
     

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  2. 34toddster
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    Ghost, (just hope I can get it sealed up from wind and water) I'm sorry LOL
    Really mine doesn't leak too bad just at the top now. Good luck
     
  3. Ghost28
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    Yeah that's one of my biggest worries, and you scared me :eek: I can deal with a little leaking but the noise from the wind (hoey vay) not my style...John
     
  4. 29nash
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    Just to clarify, the felt seals I used to substitute for the $90 repop seals are the regular felt channels used on door windows.

    The repop kit is sold by fillingstation.com, and other places.
     
  5. mink
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    I purchased on ebay a 32 chevrolet riser unit great one at a reasonable price. I happen to have the piec that connects the glasss to the riser , its a bit bent . I may build a new one off of it. I need to find a bottom seal and verticalpiece . I checked th fillingstation and called them about what i needed but coudn't find it , wasn't talking to the right guy there . Iguess the first thing i'll do wil be to make a wood template of the glass and one know the dimension it should be. well i guess i'll know when i put the c channel in . How are the c channel secured in the side. I am missing the wood
     
  6. Ghost28
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    Here is what I have for my 28 windshield. The top that the glass secures to, both side pieces that secure to the glass, and the u channels that fit in the piller that the rubber or felt will go in...John
     

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  7. 34toddster
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    Ghost, I think those U channels go in the doors I didn't use those for the windshield I have pictures showing the yellow metal that butts against the U felt channel that I purchased in the 3 piece kit from I think the Filling station, came in a Steele Rubber Products bag. The other piece is suppose to fit the top metal windshield piece with the 2 brackets on it for the riser mechanism. The interior moulding holds all of mine in place on the vertical sides. I hope the pictures up-load if not anyone interested in them I'll e-mail them to you. The bottom rubber for the windshield has a dovetail that holds it in the body that thing fit very well without much hassle, the lip goes to the interior side of the car. I wasn't sure about that so I had to go look at my friends original 31 to see. Thanks
     
  8. 29nash
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    Ghost; The metal channels that you show don't go with the windshield, they go in the door to hold the felt window channels.
     

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  9. 34toddster
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    Mink, call Gary Wallace he has the repair kits, gaskets and the side pieces for the windshield too if you need them. 314-293-1991
     
  10. Ghost28
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    Yep. You guys are right now all I got to do is find the other filler pieces. (there here some place). Thanks guys ...John
     
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  11. mink
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    Hey ust called gary wallace about my 32. Hey sid there are 3 pieces of folded u channel in which hold the windshield. Surrounding these and the bottom part of the windshied are just rubber. Rubber on the bottom and rubber channels on the left and right. It'll cost me about $150 cool i may just get the rubber for 100
     
  12. 34toddster
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    Say Goodbye to the 31, Yep, Sold my 31 today to a well deserving couple in their early 60's. The gentleman has wanted a hotrod all of his life and his wife says he's spent enough money buying Magazines to pay for a car.
    They will finish with the interior of their liking.
    I really had a blast driving to the SR Nats, the last one in History, last month, it had 29 miles on it when I left for Louisville, and nothing but fun in it for a short 1250 miles.
    Well it's off to the next car, another kinda of different piece! So long for now Chevy lovers until our next Chevy project! Back to a Ford for now!
     
  13. Ghost28
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    Dang. I guess that is too bad about your chevy. Did they just see it someplace or did you build it to sell it? The ford looks like a worthwile project and I am sure it will turn out to be a nice car and you will have fun with it. On another note I just picked up my next project after the 28 gets finished in about a year or so. It is a 51 ford business coupe in PIECES but that is the way I like to start a build, and for the most part it will store easy until I am ready to work on it. And o.m.g. it will be all ford built. Yes I have gone to the dark side. I'll post a few pics of the car when I get it all over to my shop...John
     
  14. 34toddster
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    Ghost, not all is lost, I have 3 other non HAMB chevies, and I will still subscribe to this fantasic thread .Good luck with the 51, I had a 51 also, Chevy motor of course I saw a Pic of a car some guy built a 49-51 with a Boss 429 in it and it was Sweeeeet! post some pics.
    I'll be watching!
     
  15. Hodgeshotrods
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    I'm new to the hamb. I have been reading this thread over the past three days... wow! Great projects! Good information! I have a 31 Chevy five window with a rumble seat that I picked up off of craigslist in Jan. The guy started to restore it and had the motor rebuilt in 2002 and drove it in three local parades. I haven't had a chance to drive it yet just put it shop, because I skipped my first day of classes of my last semester of college to go buy it and pick it up. Now I'm working in florida until november and its in Idaho. :( I like the 32 grill a lot and was wondering if anyone could tell me if it will interchange with the 31 grill?
     

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  16. Ghost28
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    WOW. That's a cool car. and I like the six. I dont think there is a whole lot of difference in the 31 to 32 chevy grill except slight cosmetic changes.

    Well what are your plans for your car when you get to it? John
     
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  17. 34toddster
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    Gee Hodge, many people on this thread would give a body part for that 31....Nice grill that you have there!
     
  18. 29nash
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    My reference shows the '31 car and '31-'32 truck rad shells as being the same, so it would fit, maybe the diff is the holes in the sides for horn and headlight wiring because '32 cars had optional dual horns. ?? Don't know the diff, just conjecture.
     
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  19. Hodgeshotrods
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    Thanks guys for the info! I really appreciate it! The plans are to build a street rod or resto rod. Put a SBC and maybe chop it 2-3 inches, update the suspension and lower her down. For now I'm going to button it up a little bit and drive her! I have to finish up a 68 Chevy CST short bed ground up project first. Have to finish one project at a time cuz I have too many and will never get anything done. John seeing the fab work in your delivery has got me all excited about busting out the welder, band saw and tubing bender... very nice work looks great! Toddster the 31 turned out beautiful! Nash the 29 is so cool!
     
  20. Ghost28
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    1. Street rod. A lot of glitter, and billet, maybe front and rear independent suspension. Usually a nice car and show quality painted. (Usually over priced on resale, but most times comes with a trailor. There is most always a buyer when the economy is good)

    2. Resto rod. All original trim, door handles, lights, but with a modified suspension and drive train usually axles but on rare occasions independent. Usually painted in original stock trim or close to it. But just like in the old days this car can be modified in an afternoon to lean towards hot rod status. (Good solid builds are always a good buy)

    3. hot rod. Basic simple in design, fenders or not, prolly a 4 speed but not necessary, big noisy engine for scaring children, and little old ladys, and some times me. :eek: Could be run with a hood top no sides, but not required. Hot rod stance is required, mostly done with big honken tires out back and littles up front, and solid axle treatment both ends. Painted steel rims sometimes trimmed with rings and caps but not necessary. Could be ran in seal coat primer of different shades, but sometimes finished in dark color shiney so as not to lose any intimidation factor. (Always in style)

    I'm not trying to be a smart ass, cuz I have built all three and I now favor the build styles from 3 to 1 and with my 28 delivery I am right in the middle between 3 and 2 :confused: I would like to see your chevy in the same place cuz of the enjoyment of the build and the drivability when finished would be so much more enjoyable for you. If I have over stepped I apologize after all it is your car...John
     
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  21. Hodgeshotrods
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    Hey John! This is the second time I'm posting this... Don't know why it didn't post my last one. Darn computers... No you haven't over stepped. If you can't drive them why build them! :D I'm on the same page as you as far as building our Chevys. I'm thinking a combination between 2 and 3. I plan on four linking the rear and possibly converting the front to independent. I plan on running full fenders and using the stock handles and head lights. Upgrade the latches with some bear claw latches! I don't have the tail lights and might use 39 ford tail lights or something else... Got any good ideas? :) As far as power plant I like them noisy but street able got to scare the old ladys! And myself too!:eek: I plan on running a SBC and making it fairly nasty. I want to be able to run the hood and hood sides. Can't make my mind up on wheels and tires but I'm thinking steelies and maybe some white walls. I like the rim and tire combo that you are using...Looks good! Are you going to paint yours or run it in primer?
     
  22. Ghost28
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    Bear claw laches are always a good idea my latches on the chevy are in great condition, so I will be using them. But I might put a stainless safety pin in just for good measure.
    What I will be using for my tail lights in the 28. I believe are from a 38 dodge truck. They will be mounted on the body just up from the fender on both sides. But after I got my 51 ford I thought they would look kool also. But my mind is made up on using the dodge units.
    Rims and tires. I think later on I might put some artillery rims on the 28. Painted black of course. And again with rings and caps, not just baby moon caps but the police style with the real small bow tie in the center, and some medium wide whites just to change it up a little. Just a thought .
    Naw gonna be paint this time honest. That's how I got my handle ghost cuz of all the grey primer on my previous cars. This one will be the original dark green with black fenders, running boards, and splash aprons. Just a single stage paint, so hopefully it will have some old school class and patina when done and with me painting it. It will definately have some patina. (NOT PERFECT) Well keep us informed on your project and take lots of pictures...John
    Couple pics of the dodge tail lights and the 51 ford style for you to consider.
     

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  23. Hodgeshotrods
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    John the car 28 is going to look sweet with the green and black! Like the dodge tail lights. Can't wait to see it all together! I will post pics as I go!
     
  24. Hey John...been trying to get my Chevrolet 28 4-door together all summer...had hip replacement repairs this summer....finally getting around somewhat ...anyways I've been following this thread...it's a good one for us Chevy guys. I'm having a problem with the parts below...I'm mocking up my body and I'm trying to find out what these parts are for...any idea....(top 3 pictures) also included a couple of other pics of the car...This car was in excellent shape except for one thing...I was missing a back passenger door...I'm going to use a 29 back door...the body lines are different..I'll modify that. One other matter...I read somewhere someone chopped a Chevy and had to leave out the windshield riser...as you can see I have one...I plan on a 5"-6" chop..will the riser work or will the window area be to small..I'll add to this post as I start to build and plan..
     

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  25. Ghost28
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    Man you car brings back memories. let me check my parts area I might have a section of door with the double trim lines.

    1st pic Is the frame horn caps that were used to finish off the frame horns after the fenders were installed.

    2nd pic Is the track metal above the passenger door on the body. This had a hole in it for the door stop mechanism I welded mine back in even though I wont be using the stock door stop.

    3rd pic looks like the door sill area around one of the front doors that would surround the hinges.

    4. even with your chop the riser should work as long as you leave the cavity at the top of the windshield for it to go up in. Mine is chopped only 2 3/4 inches, but the way the stock dash mounts you will have to lower the dash so it alligns with the door garnish moldings. I lowered mine like this and it gave me more lower visible windshield area, and still allowed an air gap flow to the foot area on the first crank, then with a little more cranking it allows the air to come into the passenger, and driver face area.
     

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  26. 29nash
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    16ozSchlitz; I would only add; Even if it reduces the up and down travel some, should you reduce the depth of the cavity above, that crank up windshield makes it a Chivvy!
    On the other hand, if your mechanism is in good condition, should you decide to lose it, it'll sell for a couple of hundred on ebay.
     
  27. Nash..your right..the up and down movement makes it a chevy...and what Ghost added about dropping the dash will help me...The windshield regulator is in grat shape..the wood is entact along with the rear view mirror and interior cloth...gee that $200.00 would be nice...got to decide... Hell....I started this build early in the spring with some frame building..and then my hips wore out again..had to get them re-tuned in July......then money got short...had to decide to sell my 55 Chris Craft Capri boat..:mad::mad:...well it's going to Buffalo on Sunday...anyways now I can focus on the car..and blow some money.
     

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  29. bkap
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    Ghost (and others), I'm starting on my '33 pickup and it appears I'll have some of the same interior issues. Did you use any wood on the inside or replace it all with tubing? I'm thinking tubing but can see some advantages to having wood for attaching the headliner later.
     
  30. 29nash
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    Starting fresh I would use both steel and wood. I know I like wood to attach upholstery to.
     

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