Well then,it's a good thing I'm gettin my hands on it...nothing changes!!..I may need to lower the seat a bit, but thats about it..if its not something to make it safer, it wont happen...where did you see that ad?...I dont think there has been any changes
QUOTE: where did you see that ad?... I clicked on the link on lower part of page one on your thread.... from the Trailer Website ad. The then seller was talking about the car...in 2013 ? .
Hmmm...supposedly the guy I bought it from in Brooklyn is the guy who bought it from the orig owner in 2014...guess theres more to the story than he said...which I really dont give a ****..just wanna find the builder and get it from the horses mouth
Nice score @Mark Jenny, I haven't seen or heard about the car before as I know of, but I'll help you spread the word! It would have been great to locate Jerry and get some more info and maybe some old photos of it.
I believe that comment about changes were made by the person posting the HAMB ad on the bring a trailer website, not about changes that were made, it looks like the car was posted for sale on the HAMB, then someone posted the info on bringatrailer and said that if they had it they would make some changes... thats all, no reference to actual changes.. Ironic, I actually used the advertised price for this car last year as a reference when making my offer on Snewpee... it was the closest thing I could find for sale at the time... of course this car was running & working... Snewpee was not at all !
The "bring your trailer" ad is interesting..there are alot of comments about the car under the ad if you scroll down.I haven't had a chance to read them all, but they are pretty positive comments...I just wish people would stop embellishing the truth about things..the guy I bought it from says he bought it directly from the orig owner, (Jerry Bur****) in Olean NY, in 2014..so where does the Hamb ad from 2013 come in, and who is the guy sitting in the coupe?..I know hes not the builder/orig owner, because I asked the guy I bought it from if it was, he said "no"...so is he a HAMBER?...maybe he will surface on this post.....but like I said, I really dont care about peoples stories, I just wanna find Jerry Bur****!...supposedly he has moved from NY to Arizona or New Mexico and thats why he sold the car...that is what the seller told me
It's too bad the original HAMB ad from 2013 is gone. If you're real interested you might contact Ryan to see if there's some archive he's got that he might have access to to pull it up. As for the BaT listing, as mentioned they snag ads from all over and post them up for the interested subscribers to view. It's a mixed bag on there of auto enthusiasts, lots of sport car types, many arm chair enthusiasts, and as a result the comments, particularly on hot rods, can be frustrating and even dumb. If you do read the comments on this particular car there are several references to "the sedan for $100k" as if it were a Model A as well. Actually it was Henry Richards (Steadfast Mfg) deuce sedan. A completely different kind of car with a different kind of target market to this coupe...................but most of those making those kinds of comments only see a "square bodied" car and don't understand the differences.
I've been doing some research on these 50's/60's east coast early hot rods. From what I gather most of these early fords were channeled but not chopped ...since this car was built in upper state NY,so its East coast, it looks more like a California car with its stance?..Snoopy is channeled pretty deep with no chop and sits low...this car is channeled but sits high??..opinions?
Hey Mark, Just observing here. Your car sits high probably because the builder wanted rear fenders, but wanted to keep them in the original position. Look closely at the Snoopy car and you will see the rear fenders have been raised. Your car is channeled only to the bottom of the frame. This would be considered a mild channel. Also, by the mid 50's, all the west coast mags got to the east coast. Rake was always cool, and your car has it!
Thats good info Tony...thanks so much!...I love this survivor stuff...its such a great part of american history!!
What do you want opinions about? What you got there is a *****en, era perfect, channeled, east coast build, with all the details going with it!! A real hot rod, and a survivor on top. Including channel, no chop, bobbed rear fenders and a Hot flathead! And compared to snoopy, yours look a little more Tracey with the rear up like that. And please don't change it, fix broken and enjoy it till death do you part!!! Awesome rod!!
no worries bro..not changing a thing!..I'll fix a couple safety issues and drive it!...I just wanted some feedback on the west coast vs east coast hotrod look at the time this car was built..seems the east coast was heavily channeled and sat lower while the west coast was more chopped and high sitting on a rake..mine seems to have a bit of both regions. But as Tony pointed out, east coast hot rodders where starting to see some west coast stuff in magazines, so maybe this builder was influenced by both...
another thing that intrigues me is the lack of natural fading/aging that older lacquer paint jobs will show...checking,color changing etc.If this car was a nitrocellulose lacquer, it would have turned a greenish color if was painted in 1959...it must be Acrylic lacquer, which used no clearcoates over the color, thus no color change in time..I will test the finish when it shows up next week and make sure it really is lacquer
there seems to be some fading here in this pic on the door...or maybe its just a ****py paint job..lol
A freind has a lacquer paint job in black that was done in 1959. If you saw it you would think it was less than 5 years old. You may or may not know that back in the day, the spraying process for lacquer was. spray, sand, spray, sand, repeat until you were happy. This means that lacquer can be quite thick. the more rub-outs the smoother, shineyer the paint got. This particular car was rubbed out with finer and finer grit until the shine and gloss appeared. It takes balls to sand a 50 year old paint job, but the rewards can be fantastic. Also your car's paint already looks really good in the pictures. Get on the internet and look up painting process for cars during the 50's. Be careful if you try to sand, and use VERY fine grit! Do where you can't see first like under the fender. Good luck.
Tony..first I'm gonna check somewhere in the inside of the car, like where the door panels would go..I'm going to rub a bit of thinner on a section of overspray to see if the thinner softens or melts the paint..if it does, then I know it is lacquer, and not poly posing as lacquer.....I use nitro lacquer on a daily basis spraying guitars, so I'm familiar with its process and character...acrylic lacquer needed no clearcoates to hold up...one would apply nothing but color coats till the desired finish was done...but nitro needs clearcoats..and thats why the color changes over time as the clear yellows on top of the orig color....I dont really want to bring back any shine..I just want to make sure the seller has his facts straight
Somewhere in Snoopy's thread I have some measurement photos of the body mods, as Tony mentions, I think the body was channelled about 6" & the rear fenders slid up the 1/4's about 3 or 4 " also the rear frame is stepped & front is stepped by mounting the crossmember on top of the frame which also drops the car by basically the frame height, if I'm making any sense...
Thanks Jeremy...Snoop has a cool stance!!..I never realized there was an east coast and west coast stance...cool stuff!!
Great coupe! I love the stance and the channeled but not chopped look. I wouldn't touch that. Laquer can be a PITA, but the paint looks pretty good (said the man on the galloping horse)
dude that thing is badd***!!...same stance as ole snoopy, and how cool is that you have that old pic!!..Damn!!
hey pickemup, I say again, your car can't get more cool. About the chop, it's like one guy sold it to another somewhere along the line, and the to got wacked. It just changes the history, doesn't change the coolness one bit. Bad *** then, bad *** now! Done.
I'm with Tony on this..that chop is cool..I'd chop mine except I dont want to change anything that was originally done in the 50's..your coupe rocks dude!!
I get where your coming from but remember that this style was and is a trend car too from that and this era. Restored antique owners go through the same thing every time an antique gets rodded. Its just life . Any that you want to stay the same ,you can buy and save . Other than that its up to each new owner.
I'm gonna keep it the same...otherwise I would not have cared when it was painted or built, or any of the other historic factors. I like the idea of keeping the roots of these hot rods around if possible...then again, in 2050,some guy will be going crazy over a well preserved 80's street rod
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