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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by sgtlethargic, Jul 7, 2007.

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  2. QQMOON
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    Might be a bit light but with enough railway track bolted to it ... it would work
     
  3. Old6rodder
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    It'd be appropriate too, lakes cars used to show up at the strips with slicks and gears from time to time.
     
  4. 64 DODGE 440
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    Cool, we need pictures.:D
     
  5. GMC BUBBA
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    I love the idea, we built a salt racer last year and raced it. We will be there every year as long as we live.!!

    I also have a ha/gr car as well!

    Check us out at www.gasolinealleyshops.org (bonneville trk)

    I will look over the new rule book at the shop ,sounds pretty good to me.
     
  6. Rootie Kazoootie
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    Just a interested bystander here, but I believe if you wanted to run with SCTA you would need to have a modern cage, fire system etc. even if you ran Time Only. If you wanted to run for real, about the only class a Ha/gr would fit in would be as a lakester, and even on n/a gas, the vintage lakester records are over, or close to, 200mph. Having said that, I got a up close look at the So-What Speed Shop vintage class belly tank at the 04 W/Fs and if you took away the modern cage and other required modern accouterments, it was staight out of the 1950s in every sense.
    A alternative may be the USFRA. They allow everything from go- karts to street cars (with speed limits) to run the WOS and may be more friendly to Ha/gr type cars in their present form.
    Hopefully Rich Fox will chime in and give his opinion as he certainly knows the vintage car-salt racing business.
     

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  7. WZ JUNK
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    The #974 started as a dual-purpose car. It was to run at Bonneville and later on the drag strip. Go to this site for the whole story http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/hooley/hooley-index.html . If you look closely at the rear wheel tubs on the #974 you will note that the rear end is narrowed and it is set up for slicks. The more that we ran at Bonneville, the farther it got from being a practical conversion to a drag car. Granted we could have done both but we would have not been competitive at both places. This year we built a Henry J that will run on the drag strip and we are using the motor that we ran the first year at Bonneville. I think that is as close to a dual-purpose car as we will get.

    John
     
  8. 52 HenryJ
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    I think it's a good idea so my vote is do it man!!
     
  9. Rootie Kazoootie
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    "Unaltered in length, width and conture " is a recuring theme in the rule book for bodied cars (old and new) top chopping is about all that is allowed behind the cowl.
     
  10. Your heart's in the right place, Kurt. But it's a case of apples and oranges. Or maybe even apples and grand pianos.
     
  11. Rootie Kazoootie
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    I believe the VOT class has a max. wheel base rule that is well under the standard ha/gr.
     
  12. Kurt, I guess there would be no reason you couldn't have the legal roll bar for SCTA on the HA/GR. Might add a weight disadvantage though. I need a SCTA rule book to be able to guess further.
     
  13. dragrcr50
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    weight is in on the salt man, without it it will blow the tires off at speed, just ask hooley
     
  14. RichFox
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    Recent rule changes for SCTA roll cages take any open car out of the "traditional" looking catagory, IMHO. If it's pre 49 you can chop it. or if it's a Comp Coup. No other metal removal. There have been lots of HAMB style sedans at the salt lately. Shug sure has fun with the pictured tank. Stock model A with an Eaton blower. All the V4 - X and XX classes are good for inovation in engine building. I'm not to sure about the HA/GR cars that I have seen pictures of. Remember, plenty of money for safty equiptment. I thgink Dan Warner said there will be a flathead Cad powered lakester on the salt this year. A serious effort. This I'm going to love.
     
  15. Rootie Kazoootie
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    I wonder if a bolt-in, modern "sub cage" would be legal in the vintage lakester class? In recent yrs. there has been more than one street driven roadster driven to Bville and run legally in the S/R class with a added cage. I took this pic off of E-bay recently that was on a street roadster for sale and had been run at Maxton. (?)
     

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  16. RichFox
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    I don't see why not. I don't know what is legal for HA/GR cars, but in the old days some guys ran P38 drop tanks for dragster bodies. They lend themselves to a legal cage since there is no room for a perimiter cage. Harder to work with though. And remember, as Vintage four motors go I would say the Ford A-B-C is about the same as the SBC to todays street machine guy. There are other engines out there.
     

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