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1934 chevs, master VS standard? Whats differant.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Kustchops, Feb 16, 2006.

  1. I was wondering about the differance between the masters and the standard, I know the wheelbase is longer on the master, And I know a 35 standard is like a 34 master, but is a 34 standard body smaller? or is it just a differant grill and shorter chassis. Any gurus out there....? I was looking at the bottom of the grill areas, does the master have a differant fender too? Oorrrr is a 34 standard like a 33? I have been on the net for a few hours trying to figure it out, there are a lot of people out there who dont know what they have.
     
  2. wayne-o
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    The 34 standard and master are completely different. I do not believe any of the body parts will interchange. The 34 and 35 standards are very similiar, the only way I have been able to tell them apart is the 34 has a removable cover over the gas tank and the 35 has a one piece body that covers the gas tank. The 34 masters had knee action front suspension compared to the standards beam axle and parallel leaf springs. The fenders on the masters had a noticably wider reveal along the edge and the hood had stainless decorative strips along the lower edge of the horizontal vents. The 35 masters were a completely different body than the 34's. Get the book 60 Years of Chevrolet, has some great pic's ad details.
     
  3. So sticking with the 34 year, is the standard a smaller body? more like a 33?
     
  4. The37Kid
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    Is there a THIRD size Chevy 33-34 called the Mercury?
     
  5. Smaller body? Don't know that for sure, maybe just hung on the frame differently. Also the Standard looked different because of different tires and more brightwork on the Master. The '34 hood was longer than '33 but the wb was the same, 107. The '34 Standard had painted headlight buckets instead of bright/shiny, and less bright-work trim on the Master. Stripped, the hood, etc. has more holes, because of more bright-work than the standard. I've been told (careful of that!) that '34 Standard hood panels, etc could be converted to Master by simply adding bright-work, don't know that as fact. The vertical grill bars on the Standard were wider apart than on the Master. Master(wb 112, tires 550x17) (Standard wb 107, tires 525x17). The Master had the new X-Y frame, with the knee action. Free-wheeling was optional on Master only, which by the way, was standard on all '32s.
     
  6. 286merc
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    The 34-5 Standard body, cowl back, was shared with the same years Series 40 Buicks and maybe some Ponchos. The Buicks had knee action IFS.
     
  7. rsg2506
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    Master's had a glove box and standards don't(at least mine doesn't). I was always under the impression that masters had a longer wheel base like 112".
     
  8. 28rpu
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    1934 and '35 standards were 3 windows and mostly the same. '34 masters were 5 windows and had different fenders and like others said different hood, and were slightly bigger than the '34-5 standard. The '35 master went to the bigger body like the '36 Chev and '35-6 Fords and had suicide doors. The '33 Chev master eagle and probably the mercury were basically the same size as the '34-5 standards. The '33 master eagle was a 5 window body also. Nick
     
  9. Sounds kinda stupid, but I fit well in a 34 master, but a 33 is too small and I dont. Thats why I was trying to find out if the standard body was smaller. Thanks for all the input. and about the third style Mercury I have no idea.
     
  10. blue57ford
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    I have read about the Mercury chevys. If my memory serves me right, they were smaller versions of the standard.
     
  11. diggermike
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    I had 2- 34 Master sedans once upon a time. On these some of the diffs, were -the height of the grill, front fenders were different in length, the rear fenders on a standard bolted up in one direction & on the master they bolted another. The thing I remember most was that the gauge cluster on the standard was in the center of the dash. On a master it was behind the steering wheel in front of the driver and there was a glove box door on the passenger side. I beleive the wheelbase was about 4" longer on the master. But this is all from my twenty year old memory. Hope it helps along with the others info.:cool:
     
  12. John Copeland
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    The 34 and 35 Standard has a couple of models that appear to be the same car but definitely are not. There are two series, one being the Mercury, I forget what the other one was called but even though they are both standards, the hoods and front fenders wil definitely not interchange. The Standards as someone already said, are two totally different cars. The 35 master looks more like the 36, fat cars.
     
  13. TomH
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    The '33 Mercury came out out late in 1933 not very many made. It was based on the 107" wheel base which changed to the std. model in '34-'35.
    The '34-'35 standard frames are different. The 34 has two rails with cross members the 35 has an x member. The bodys will interchange on the frames.'34-35 std. sheet metal will interchange ( front cilip doors rear fenders ect.)

    I have 6ea. 33 to 35 Chevy coupe bodys and some 2 and 4 door models. I have a good idea of what I talking about.AND NONE OF THEM ARE FOR SALE.
     
  14. yngrodder
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    I have a 34 master 2 door and had been wondering these same things about interchanges Im needing a hood and side panels will any thing else interchange? I have found a 34 pontiac how much differant are they? I am going to look at it next week.
     
  15. bonzo-1
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  16. flatmotor40
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    tried to look at gmheritage but would not give me pdf just started and give me blank page after it seemed to download don't know computers
     
  17. TomH
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    Did you scroll down??
     
  18. flatmotor40
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    something is wrong with my pdf thing
     
  19. Streetrodscoty
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    I have a 34 Master coupe, I need Grill parts. Need the chrome band that goes around the grill insert, anyone have any leads? The main way I identify the Master from the standard is the dash, Master has gauge cluster in front of the steering wheel, Standard is in the middle. However when I bought my car (knowing nothing about them) I had both dashes, the standard dash fit the master body.
     
  20. Kosman
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    the 33 mercury or standard is 2 inches narrower. all standards 33-35 that I have seen have a smooth rear inner fender all masters 33-34 have a little step in them. its an easy way to tell when their is not much left.
     
  21. mgtstumpy
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  22. ...wasn't there an Eagle series in there somewhere?
    ...Mercury series were smaller cars.
     
  23. Gofannon
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    From Wikipedia:

    The Chevrolet Eagle (Series CA) is an American vehicle manufactured by Chevrolet in 1933 to replace the 1932 Series BA Confederate. The Eagle was produced early in the 1933 production year. When it was joined by the cheaper Mercury later in 1933 the Eagle name was changed to Master to provide Chevrolet with a two-car range, and the first time in ten years they manufactured two models on different wheelbases. The Mercury was also known as the Standard series. [1]

    Total the earlier Eagle and later Master combined sold 450,435, an increase of nearly 140,000 the previous year's Series BA sales of 313,395, and ensured that Chevrolet was able to retain their number one spot in American car sales. The Eagle saw the end of two-seater cars from Chevrolet, and the new Town Sedan included an integral trunk.

    There are several differences between the Eagle and Master. The easiest to identify is the post between the front door wing windows and the roll down windows. On the Eagle the chrome divider between these two windows goes down as the window goes down, where as on the Master this divider remains fixed and does not go down with the window.
     
  24. paul55
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    No body parts are interchangeable between '34 std. and master except the dash. Std. is on 107" wb and master is on 112"wb. On the '34 std., everything is smaller(shorter), such as fenders, runningboards, hood, shell, headlight bars, etc. Therefore, the std. body is a tad smaller than the 3W Master. Yes, most Master coupes are 5W, but they did build a Master 3W.
     
  25. falcongeorge
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    Are the '33/'34 Standard/Mercury coupe bodies harder to find as a general rule than the Eagle/Master series?
     
  26. modified1927
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    Realized this is older post, I had a 34 Ute which is based on Standard 3 window, what I found out was the steering box on a standard bolts tot he top of the frame and on Master it goes through the frame like a Ford
     
  27. mgtstumpy
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    https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/do...information-kits/Chevrolet/1935-Chevrolet.pdf
    • Master has X-member frame and knee action front shocks with 112" WB;
    • Standard has ladder frame with 107" WB;
    • Swage (pressing) on lower fenders and running boards are wider on Master plus it has S/S spears on running boards;
    • Rear fenders on Masters are fuller in shape when compared to Standard rear fenders;
    • Nothing between bodies is interchangeable; grill, hood and side curtains are deeper;
    • Master has longer running boards than a Standard with SS spears on engine side curtain pressings from memory;
    • Standards have single centre mounted instrument cluster, Masters have instruments in front of driver with glove box in front of passenger;
    • 1934 instrument cluster has black faces with white numbers, 1935s have cream faces with brown numbers;
    • 1934 cowl vents open to the rear, 1935s open to the front;
    • As stated above, the easiest to identify the difference is the post between the front door wing windows and the roll down windows. On the Eagle the chrome divider between these two windows goes down as the window goes down, where as on the Master this divider remains fixed and does not go down with the window. 34 Chev chassis.jpg
     
  28. Hey guys does anyone know the size of the 35 axle lug nuts?
    Thanks.
     

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