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Hot Rods 1940 banjo gear ring bolt missing safety wire hole?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by cbass139, Sep 17, 2024.

  1. cbass139
    Joined: Mar 7, 2010
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    from Chicago

    As the title says it seams that the 1940 banjo gear ring bolts are missing safety wire holes. They have castle nuts and look original but there was no safety wire when I took it apart and no holes to put any safety wire when I reassemble. I also have not been able to find replacements of any kind, to purchase a set with the holes. Has anybody had this or know a good source/solution for this issue?

    Cbass
     
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  2. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
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    I’ve taken quite a few old 30’s-40’s Ford rearends apart in the last couple years, and can confirm that some didn’t have locking wire on the carrier bolts. I don’t remember what the year break is though, or if the wire was phased in or out.
     
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  3. cbass139
    Joined: Mar 7, 2010
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    Well that is great to know, wondering if it would be worth it to drill holes in these? or put locktite on them? or just torque them to spec and live with them how they were from back in the day?
    Thanks
    Cbass
     
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  4. alchemy
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    I’ve never found a loose one. And none of them had Loctite on them.
     
  5. Dan Timberlake
    Joined: Apr 28, 2010
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    Properly tightened bolts don't loosen.

    Safety wire might keep a bolt that loosened from backing off completely and falling out.
    That is desireable if it keeps steering components from unplugging when going down the road

    Requirements for a properly tightened bolts.
    - Flat smooth mating surfaces on the mating faces.
    - Clean threads in good condition.
    - smooth flat surfaces for the bolt heads to seat on.
    - Torque cycle the bolts a few times before final tightening.
    https://arp-bolts.com/i/t/PreloadGraph.gif
     
  6. alchemy
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    How do you torque cycle carrier bolts a few times? You mean use the thing, then retorque?
     

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