I'm in the process of gathering parts to convert the straight six engine in a 1957 Ford Fairlane to a Blueprint 302 and C-4 transmission. I realize the driveshaft and exhaust, linkage ect... will need to be addressed. My question would be, are the any kits/recommendations for the engine and trans mounts? Exhaust manifolds. I really don't want to run headers. Looking at it I would use the 302 front sump pan. The radiator is new and it looks like it would cool it but I need to check the hose arrangement's.Any help will save me from making the same mistakes as someone else.
Try the Anchor brand motor mounts #2725 & #2726, Anchor trans mount 2753. Shouldn't have to do any mod's to the mounts or front cross member mount pads. For the trans mount you may need to weld a plate off your original trans x-member & drill the 2 holes for the mount. Iv'e done lot's of these conversions and these mounts work well and are reasonably priced.
I transplanted a 351W and AOD into a '57 Ranchero a year and a half ago for a customer, so I may be a bit foggy on the details, but I hope I can remember the important bits. I didn't use a kit. The motor mounts were mid '80s Bronco if I remember correctly. They bolted into the original Y-block frame pads (probably different than your 6), but I needed 1" tall spacers between the engine block and mounts to get the engine up where it needed to be. Edit: I found a pic of the Bronco Mounts ('78-'86 Ford Bronco) You will need to use the front sump pan. The 351W I had came out of a 4x4 pickup and had the rear sump. It ended up getting converted to the car style front sump. I put a set of stainless shorty headers on that were originally designed for a Fox body mustang. The p***enger side fit really well, the drivers side was tight to the bottom corner of the firewall, but that was remedied with a little creative hammering and grinding. You may not run into that issue with the shorter deck height of a 302. The stock radiator did fine for about a year, but was rotting out anyways, and eventually got replaced with a really nice US Radiator unit. All-in-all it was a fairly simple swap, and the Windsor looked right at home. Good Luck
I like Transdapt mounts. if you want to go headers instead of manifolds I am sure that ****** makes a set for your swap and probably Headmon. I prefer Headmon myself but to each his own. Should be an easy swap.
If you want cast-iron exhaust manifolds, look at Windsor-powered full-size Fords and trucks/vans. Some of the later ones have strengthening ribs cast into them that may need some grinding for clearance.
6 cylinder radiator works for early water pump set up(p***enger side lower outlet), you''' need a v8 radiator, or have your lower outlet swapped to the drivers side to run the more common, later water pump and accessory drive. I used the same mounts above, but used a piece of 1/4 inch flat steel, and moved the mounts outward one inch to get the engine to sit right. (done a 289, a 302, and a 351 Cleveland this way. All 3 are using the stock exhaust manifolds, 2 were Mustang engines, so Mustang headers may work.. Each had a different transmission, so the transmount setup was different, but used the stock crossmember.
All the answers to your questions can be found here from guys that have" been there and done that" http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/social-forums/1952-59-ford-social-group.282/ The members have put together a HUGE file with tons of swap info and sources to get your parts from, some of the posts above are off base and some are correct for your application so hop on over and we will get you on the right track.
I will clear up a couple things the ANCHOR 2725 & 2726 are 1984-93 Mustang 5.0 mounts they are taller and eliminate the need to add spacers to the other mounts mentioned,the Mustang shorty factory headers are pretty restrictive in the ports they will clear in a 1952-53 Ford with a SBF swap they will not clear in 1954-56 Fords but do in 1957-59's.Best clearance with zero modifications hands down are the HEDMAN 88400's .Now we have found that ANCHOR mounts in the last few years have been failing as the rubber is from China and India so check the country of origin before you buy as they are sold under other trade names,mine compressed with my 302 and the stock manifold is now against the steering box when first installed you could p*** a finger thru the gap,when I went to swap them the stud is turning in the rubber.They are being replaced with Prothane mounts all USA made and they will cost more but look at the quality.The HEDMAN 88400's are going on with the mount swap.
Crites makes a nice kit I used them when I put the 460 in my wagon. If you don't want to run headers I think that usin the stock manifolds is the best way to go. The 460 is a monster and I had to get creative with the radiator to clear any kind of fan. But im not sure with a 302. Pm if I can help in any way
One other tip,if you are replacing a 223 six the radiator mounts are slightly ahead of the y-block mounting which is good if your 302/5.0 is a 1970 or later with the long water pump drivers side lower hose,you can swap to the 1966-69 water pump which is shorter but p*** side lower hose here is a full article on that, scroll down to Post# 5 http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/sbf-short-water-pump-pulleys.303600/
Thanks for all the help . this will make things easier .Like I say " you don't have to be the smartest person, you just need to know the smartest people."
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