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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Hightone111, Jul 8, 2010.

  1. Hightone111
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    It's a fantastic theory. Sounded quick and easy to me too, however, I tried every other way I could think of. Upside down, inside out, left to right and this was the closest to 0* that I could get. I'll double check once more when the new spindles get here though
     
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    'Morning Hightone. Chip here. Sorry I caused so much confusion over this deal, just got myself tied up there. I'm 100% confident that your problems will be solved when your pass spindles arrive. A quick quote from Pat Ganahl, the first line from the article I am talking about - "I've been working on this article for nearly 20 years. Really. I could just never find one person who owned enough different Chevys to get the pre - 55 spindle mix/match sorted out." So I think I'm in good company with being a bit confused. Another quick quote from the article - "all beam axles have approximately 7 degree king pin inclination, while all independent front spindles have 4 degree inclined kingpins. Mixing them will cause severe camber change." There is the rub, it looks to me that you have about 2-3 degrees of extra positive camber, this should solve it. The last time I dealt with any of this stuff was back in about 2000 or 2001, when I was swapping out some components on my '48 Chev 2 - door, so it has been awhile. I could go on about theory and reasoning behind king pin inclination, scrub radius, all the goofy stuff that is included with this change, but I know that the right spindles will solve the immediate needs. One last thought, I do suck at computer stuff and can't post pictures to the hamb yet, but if you e-mail me at louverguyquinn@yahoo.com, I will do my best to scan this article and get you a copy. Thanks, Chip Quinn
     
  3. I was going to look for a pic of this one myself. I was reading a little about it a few months back.

    These guys build some odd ball gassers for sure. The first Flintstone Flyer was Packard. Big ol boat and they were competitive with both.

    What a smooth project. Gotta love a Stude Gasser.
     
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    The "look" I'm not a big fan of is the rear tires sticking way out, I'm going to keep mine inside the fenderwells and cross my fingers that it turns out right
     
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    Good idea, have your pops stop by this evening and we'll swap it out.
     
  6. Yea tires sticking out of a slab side (on a streeter) is pretty '70s. Well sticking out a ton is pretty '70s, I like 'em with the fenderwells radiused and the tires just about meeting the outside of the sheet metal on the right car.

    But for the most part tires sticking out is pretty hokey.
     
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    Are you using the speedway spindles that came with the kit or just the speedway axle with stock spindles off of a chevy?

    Reason I ask is, I work with a guy who builds sprint car axles and said that the speedway axle will only work with "their" spindles. The have a weird camber built into them so you kinda have to use their parts. Just a thought......

    Hopefully your new spindles will work
     
  8. Way cool. Stude with a Stude; what a concept!

    I'm bookmarking this one for sure.

    BTW, if you don't like the 'no front brakes' thing, but want some spindle mounts, HAMB member ETWHEELS (aka Scott) has a new product coming out. Here's a cut & paste from his site:

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    Don't know if they're the look you're going for, but it's a way to go spindle mount and be able to stop quick.

    -Bill
     
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    Yeah, my first post about the issue explained all that. I was also told by the guy at Radir that they wont work with their spindle mount wheels.
     
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    Those are some good looking wheels, cool that you can kind of hide the brakes if you wanted. Alread bought some Radirs though
     
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    Sorry still don't see what spindles your using.... Sorry for trying to help, I'm done.



     
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    Sorry Shizzel, not as clear as I thought either. Theyre off of a pickup. I'll tear into it when the other set shows up and we'll get to the bottom of this haha. Thanks
     
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    I kinda like this one. Tires aren't so far out, Cool stance.
     

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    i like where this is going
     
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    Motor is in the back of my truck, hopefully I have time to make it to the machine shop today!

    Anyone ever heard of regrinding the crankshaft .030-.060 for longer stroke instead of decking the block?
     

  16. Damn that's cool!
     

  17. I wouldnt decrease the size of the bearings especially when you are about to greatly increase the load on them.

    Some years ago John Erb of Carson City NV was working on welded crankshafts to increase the Stude stroke for bigger displacements.
    You could ask if he still has any and how the experiment turned out.
    How is he doing these days?
     
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    It was John's idea haha! He's doing good as far as I know. I'm sure he still has some, he's got a warehouse full of the stuff! If the crankshafts weren't forged, I'd be more hesitant
     
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    I don't see why it wouldn't work. It's actually quite clever! Just gotta get a good machinist that can hold a tight tolerance stroke on all 8 journals. Any other clearance issues in the block?
     
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    No, none I'm aware of. It looks to be in good shape.
     
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    Glad to see your moving along. Like the car, like the vision. Last time I was in Carson, you could simply park a car outside if you needed it sand blasted. Fun place though.
     
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    Haha yeah pretty much, especially out where I'm at. Thanks, I hope I can keep on truckin'
     
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    Don't be a'scared of Stude motors! Been runnin' a built up one for years. Can we sing
    "Like A Rock"?
     
  24. need louvers ?
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    Any word on your passenger car spindles?
     
  25. Hightone111
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    Not yet, should be here any day.
     
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    Picked up a clean M20 Muncie today for $500.
     
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    Some minor progress this weekend. Got 220 wired up for the air compressor in the garage at the new house. Picked up a new welder and ordered a 621 bellhousing to bolt up the Muncie. Motor should be done at the machine shop any day and now I sit and wait for parts to arrive. Mainly the spindles so we can get past that discussion
     
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    NEED LOUVERS. Got the spindles yesterday, still a little work before I can make the swap, but it appears that this may be the solution just from eyeballing the different angle. should have em' installed and post pics by wednesday.
     
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    Cool cool cool! I'm sure you'll post some pics when done!
     
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    Will that 621 bellhousing work on the Stude block?
     

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