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Hot Rods 1965 a100 p/u help

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by buick bill, Jul 2, 2023.

  1. RodStRace
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  2. buick bill
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    well , got the red mtr. ground starting yesterday .sounds better than the blue one . and its the correct mtr. for the p/u .so , since a hemi is beyond my means , it looks like a hemi red 225 is whats gonna happen .the hemi red is the correct color for a 65 225 . ? right ? i had a hela a time getting it going . turns out the flywheel / flexplate have a different size hole . but the bolt pattern was the same . so i bolted it up ,just to run it . but sure would not want to leave it that way .im hoping when i get the orig. mtr pull ,it will have the flywheel i need . then the dist. had a electronic conversion . not a clue how it wired up . so the blu/70 mtr. fell over and ruined the dist ..ended up using all three to make one . i was sure surprised when it actually worked ! then the fuel pumps looked alike ,but the line to the carb wouldnt fit . so had to swap pumps . the holly carb ,that came in the bed of the truck ,that sat in the rain for yrs . ended up working pretty good. i also noticed the blue mtr. has a front sump , and the red one is cntr sump . but im thinking the cntr is what i need for the p/u . so far so good . i hope ! thankfully i can screw things up myself . id hate to think what a shop would want . for similar incompetence . lotta work ,and a little paint , and i think i can make it move under its own power . DSCF6137.JPG
     
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    DSCF6138.JPG DSCF6136.JPG i tried to tighten the valve cover . turns out there was no gasket . orderd it . should be here at 3 ? well se e . thnx kragen
     
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  4. A place I worked at, back in the HAMB-friendly 60s, Had a new-ish A100 P/U and also a new-ish El Camino, both for deliveries. I think I had more fun in town driving the A100 slant 6 than the sbc El Camino.
     
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    Swap that carb for a small cfm 4 barrel and you WILL "get-rubber-in-second-gear"! That and a set of headerz and you're in bid-ness !
    6sally6
     
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  6. buick bill
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    like i said . main trason influinsing purchase was a a100 van i had in 1980 !
     
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  7. The slant 6 came in 170, 198, and 225 versions. The 225 had the longest run and is the most common. I used to have a '69 A-100 van with slant 6 and 3 on the tree. What I remember about it was that the rear trans mount was on top, it hung from the crossmember instead of being supported from beneath.
     
  8. buick bill
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    im so not in control of the quote system ,but trail and error got me here ! ive heard new cars have a pedal for throttle control . why we gota change !... if it aint broke .... kragen came threw !
     
  9. buick bill
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    I CAN RELATE......... .ONLY TOO WELL !
     
  10. RodStRace
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    Not sure about the crank end/flywheel, maybe early forged to later cast? Slant six org will have answers.
    That motor will not like high revs and unless you do stuff like shave the head and other stuff to increase cylinder pressure, the points will be fine if you use quality tune up parts. It also will respond well to a FULL tune-up, including valve adjustment and fresh quality parts.
    The charging system uses an old point-style regulator, there are sources online to explain the 70-up electronic regulator swap. Clean connections either way! And the big thing to check is the amp gauge. This is something to figure out before you toss a battery in and connect the cables.
    http://www.madelectrical.com/electricaltech/amp-gauges.shtml
    Also, a word of warning, try not to disturb the manifolds unless you are ready to do a thorough job of prepping all mating surfaces and replacing any old bolts, drilling broken ones, etc.
    Not a bad idea to make sure they are all torqued, but the 2 manifolds both bolt to the head surface and to each other. All of those need to be flat and parallel before****embly. The radiators are usually also pretty tired by now, along with the linkage to the three on the tree.
     
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  12. squirrel
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    2464340 means mid 60s 225 block

    8 20 means August 20th block casting date

    V means 1964

    22 means 225

    9 17 means Septermber 17th engine****embly date
     
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  13. buick bill
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    thnx as usual squirrel . sounds like it might be the mtr. its supposed DSCF6163.JPG DSCF6170.JPG DSCF6171.JPG to have . and its the one it has now either way !
     
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    Judging from the install picture and the in place pic, you got it running too (paint burned off exhaust).
    Good job! Hope you cleaned the paint off the block behind that negative cable. I'd replace that fuel filter for a metal body one, too. Those doghouses get hot.
     
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  15. buick bill
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    now if i can figure out how the low mount alt. mount works/looks , i might be able to install the dog house . any pix would help much !pass. side door install was a first . and very challenging ! DSCF6165.JPG
     
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    i only use see thru filters . i like to see whats*****ing thru . but when i install . i always locate them before the fuel pump . just seems to make sense to me ! im sure 2 wouldnt hurt either . if i could get the clutch to release .and the seat to install . i think i might be able to pull it out of the shop under its own power .
     
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    looking good

    The last time I changed an alternator on one of those it was getting late at night, parts store parking lot, shady characters hanging around, I didn't get any pictures, sorry! but this is how it looks from above.

    alt.jpg
     
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  18. buick bill
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    thats pretty much what i have going on now . but i believe the a100s have a bottom mount to keep the top narrow. i think it mounts bellow the floor . but mine was purchased dis ..... so im not sure how to visualize what needs doing !!i like the way that heater hose is routed . i made mine very similar .
     
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    My 69 108 with a /6 has the alt mounted on the driver's side.

    The wiring routes from the back of the doghouse, down the side of the valve cover in those loops, to the sender and the dist, then around the front to the alt.

    Just went out back and grabbed these


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    ok / ive got that bracket . came with . i couldnt figure how it even bolted up . never had a clue i was on the wrong side ! that changes everything . thnx
     
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    Holy kiss my go ta hell! Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, spec'd out this whole story. I mean c'mon fellas, don't we all know the whole purpose of that slant 6 is to take up space until a suitable and affordable V8 is secured for installment? Personally I think a 383 with off the shelf speed stuff and even just stock manifolds would be some very scary fun. Of course a simple and easier to install LA engine would be just fine too, even a lowly 273 would work. I'm shocked...:eek:
     
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  24. squirrel
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    Yeah, but every now and then we have to remind ourselves why we build hot rods....buy driving something stock and slow.
     
  25. RodStRace
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    Before you hang it, mark the timing pointer and pulley so they are legible. Easier now!

    High, I hope you are just teasing, and talking trash. I'm not a huge fan of the 6, especially in a fairly heavy barn door, but ya work with what you got, and the V8 mounts, different radiator and shroud, throttle linkage, A100 unique transmission, and exhaust would slow this from running and maybe driving in a couple weeks to sourcing, acquiring, and fitting a whole lot of hard to find stuff. That's fine if you enjoy the hunt, have a bunch of time and money and want to complete a 1940's era correct 1932 roadster with all the super cool speed stuff. Heck, fab up a completely new body, build your own frame and suspension, machine a set of carbs while you are at it. I've seen all of that done here. They are amazing. I'm just offering help to this guy who asked for info on his 65 A100 to get it going. I've dreamed of slapping in a big inch SBM or a big block in my van, I even have a core trans that will work. Problem is, those bring on upgrading every other system on the box, which in turn requires spending enough cash I don't have that I could get a running, driving Model A. I'd rather have a stock van and a Model A.

    Early 1930 Tudor Sedan. - Apr 30, 2023
    Original Condition Barn Find. Complete car with matching numbers and Oregon****le. Body is quite straight and solid. Runs, Drives, Stops. New wiring, roof, floorboards, all windows function. A real blast from the past and fun to drive!
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    Besides, if you are going to swap, the engine goes BEHIND the cab! :D
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  27. buick bill
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    well put . its like you took the words out of my mouth . its just a hobby for me . a reason to get out of bed . i could go drive my chopped f-1 or my 41 cheby coupe , or one of my harleys . but.... i came across this , never had one , cant remember the last time i saw one , so here we are . and i think its even hamb friendly .. i just hope to drive it before i die , or we run outa gas . or the Chinese invade . hope ya get the picture . i do apologize for offending anyone . Chinese or otherwise !
     
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  28. buick bill
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    DSCF6175.JPG DSCF6173.JPG View attachment 5785423 well , while im saving up for the 426 , its a runner ! no brakes ,no insurance , no plates ,no rear glass . but i brought it home a few weeks ago on a trlr. and drove it out of the shop today .one step at a time .still crawling , but..................first drive after 20+yrs of sitting . View attachment 5785423 View attachment 5785428
     
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  29. theHIGHLANDER
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    Jeez fellas, this is "the HAMB" right? Somebody has to be 'that guy' now n then so I took up the task. Slant 6 or V8, A100s are fkn kool. Relax...
     
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    A header and dual carbs are still an option....

    Devin
     
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