The HSC is "Basicly" the 3.3L inline six minus two holes lopped off... I use the flat top Pistons from a 2.3L HSC in my Falcon 200 to up the compression. The push rod motor witht he HSC design raps up pretty fast so with a light car it will move but it is a weaker motor compaired to the Lima. FrankBoss www.PintoWorks.com
This is the same engine I have but the turbo will be coming from a Turbo T Bird motor. The motor I have is from a Fox body Mustang supposed to have been an SVO Turbo car.My son hauls for a local mustang parts dealer I got a few 2.3 running gears from him .They come from cars the dealer stripped for parts He only kept the turbo off my SVO driveline 4 different 2.3 drive lines for 50$. All will eventualy find their way unti my 27 T RPU rod starting with the 77 rebuilt one but the turbo motor and the second turbo motor but with my Paxton blower in place of the turbo will end up getting swapped in
This motor is from a thunderbird. The factory turbo is small, REALLY small. The turbo I'm holding up to it in the picture is a SVO turbo.
THE turbo to run on a 2.3 is the Garrett T3/T4 hybrid. I think the SVO's got the full T3. However, even the little OE T-Bird turbo can pump 15+ psi without breaking much of a sweat and the otherwise totally stock 2.3 turbo engine can make an easy 275ish hp (@ flywheel).
This is my 292 6 cylinder but I've done this same setup on 2.3s. The blower is from a T-Bird. much easier to mount than O.E.M. 3.8s. On a 2.3 makes as much as 20 lbs. boost. Never dyno'd the 2.3 but it is truly evil. Gemini EFI
I picked up an awesome running 2.3 in 1980 Courier with a C4 behind it. Going in my 55' Zodiac Zephyr. Great motors!
Do you think the Paxton would be better to use on the SVO motor then?I saved the TBird top end from a friends scrap pile when he V8ed it.I quit messing with the 2.3s by the time turbos and fuel injection came in.I had 1 2.3 built to turbo specs but with the Paxton on it but never got to run it in the Pinto.I don't have any plans to race the T other than maybe a couple passes just to see what it will do in the 1/4 it will be my daily driver though. I figure that the T will come in real close to 1200 lbs.with a 2x4 tube frame and glass body.I'm figuring somewhere between 250-300 HP and that light will be plenty of street performance and good gas mileage. Have you gotten the engine wiring figured out yet I could really use a hand in that area.
Check out these websites for wiring information: http://www.turboford.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi http://www.turbotbird.com/ http://www.rothfam.com/svo/reference/
Thanks Yankee bookmarked those links.The 2.3 stuff has changed so much I can't just step back to 82 and continue where I left off!The blown 2.3 was the motor planned for my T back then I got as far as building the engine and the tube frame and then got into buying a home and raising family. The frame sat in the rafters of my inlaws barn and the motor less the Paxton got sold.Bought up the few 2.3s last summer along with the T glass building the T I planned back in the late 70S now and hopefully I'll finish it before I'm in my late 70s !
tjm73, The 2 2.3s we're building now will feature the newest Magnuson superchargers (Eaton style) available. 3 sided rotors with much more twist = more boost with less heat. It should top out at about 30 lbs. on a 2.3. Same blower on an LS sbc reached 19 lbs. before belt slippage with a 6 rib belt. More ribbed belts (wider) will fix slippage. The M90 can be turned to 20,000 for short bursts (drag race), been doing it for years. I've seen the M90 make any where from 18 to 22 lbs. boost on 2.0 -2.3 engines . They make a little more boost wet than dry. Our new setup is dry when not in boost and wet (alcohol) when in boost. You'll be able to see the 2.3 set up soon, we just recieved our blower friday. Gemini EFI
what mods do you have to run a eaton wet? We need more pics of these little motors your builinding with these little blowers FrankBoss www.PintoWorks.com
If it really has a c-4 behind the 2.3, that is one hard to find bell housing. All the different websites call it the holy grail. I am suprised that no one mentioned it before me. If you ever want to sell the bell housing, shoot me a pm. Wait, did I just shoot myself in the foot about trying to get the bell housing for cheap? Damn
Don't any of you 2.3 guys know how to set up a chat room or special page for us guys other than here.luckily the off topic thread hasn't been closed yet
Leon : At the risk of sounding like a broken record..this link to TurboFord Forum leads to a wealth of info on 2.3's ...I'm using one in my TrackT project & I've learned all I know from the T/F Forum http://www.turboford.org Just my coupla pennies worth of advice Stan
It's not O/T if the info exchanged is of use to guys building cars with this motor. No more off topic than talking about what intake to run on a SBC.
Well My problem with the turbo forums is...I've done the turbo thing is, not all of use are wanting to run turbo..I rather have multi carbs and fat finned valve covers. Bowers and carbs...not EFI... As far as that goes there are Turbo and EFI forums...even stock 2.3L and 2.0l forums but if you try to talk something different you catch alot of crap. www.therangerstation.com www.fordpinto.com www.turboford.org But I rather see what the guys on the Hamb are doing over those other websites. I'm casting my own intakes and welding a few tube intakes with the help of the guys from this place...now thats cool FrankBoss www.PintoWorks.com
I've noticed that is you say "I don't want a turbo, but I want some more power..." you get a little beat up about it and it ends with several people saying "run a turbo". So what are you working on exactly anyway FrankBoss? Did you see the thread on the finned 2.3 cam cover? Any change you might cast soemthing like that? There was some interest here.
I've owned almost every 2.0L and 2.3L manifold and I saw a few voids I wanted to fill...that and I enjoy casting. I haven't found a valve cover I liked. the Find Valve covers from the 70's are ok but the fins are too thin and close together, the turbo ones are fine I own one of each(like the intakes) but I think they could look better. I'm not sure if I'm going to cast a intake or just a bolt one top. Matching the valve covers and intakes with simular designs for fuel blocks and air cleaners from my own use. It's all a part of my back ground in Drag racing Pintos in the 1980's. Even though I was into the little Pinto 4 banger (when it wasn't cool I must add) I always learned more from the rods of the 50's and 60's. I think the little motor has much to give but it looks tacky. Now I'm older I'm going to do something about it, just because. We'll see. I'm also messing with the 3.3L inline six ford as well. FrankBoss www.PintoWorks.com
FrankBoss: This 2.3 V/cover appeared last year on RacinJunk...I tried to find out who made it,with no luck...The seller that had it listed did not return e/m's...Out of all I've seen ,this one really got my blood going....Had to settle for an Esslinger cast cover and it's gonna take a lot of smoothing out
thats very modern looking... not that I havent thought about going this direction. But I never bough the tig.. FrankBoss www.PintoWorks.com
None. Just make an adaptor for the carburetor if you don't use EFI. You will pick up a little more boost wet because the blower seals a little more wet. Gemini EFI
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