Hey does a stock model b bellhousing and tranny on an A bone motor need a scattershield ? there aint no such thing as a stamped steel bellhousing for those setups that I know of, Also what ever became of the conversation about model A engines with OHV heads on them?? thanks Ken
Ken, I built my own scattershield out of 1/4" plate for my dodge truck tranny. It is probably as easy to find one for your s as this one. I have not had any problems at tech with it either. As far as the ohv for the banger, you would have to PM Ryan on that one.
Exactly! I read on another thread about some alleged "Auto Trans 4 barrel carb BS"... well, the only BS is coming from the guys who don't want to play by the rules. Rules are there to keep the cars looking old and the fun factor high. Sam.
I'm glad you all aren't bending to the pressure of some folks to allow the autos and new carbs. They can still run, just not this class. That is great. Maybe 64Dodge440 will back me up when I say in nostalgia racing in general, they have allowed folks to continually 'creep' on allowing 1]aluminium heads,2]four linked suspensions,3]stupid oversized scoops,4] huge, modern sized tires, and on and on to where it is a joke. Keep it true and simple to the INTENT; and screw the rest. The car I'm building won't fit that class; but that class does have some interest to me, so I may build something that FITS it, instead of trying to make you bend the class for me.
when did things like the quarter eliptical rear setups start? is this a modern "fix" for a 4 link style rear setup or was this done back in the day?
I am calling a guy this week about a car. if it's able to be parted out I may be able to help you. It's a very solid car though...
AMEN, current "nostalgia" racing tends to fit into the category of "it sort of looks like the class used to be, with some modern stuff added because we think it's better". Don't really care for classes where you can "go too fast" and lose. Always figured that the purpose of racing was to see who was the "fastest and quickest". If you are going to have classes, keep it simple, pounds per cubic inch works well, with sub-categories for carburetors, injectors and blowers. Gas classes burn gasoline, isn't that why they called them "gas class"? Alcohol classes burn alcohol, and "Fuel classes" burn anything that they want up to and including old gym shorts. Seems like everyone always tries to find a loophole to get around the rules or make things "more equal". I far prefer "run whatcha brung racing", and let the fastest guy win, and as for the HA/GR class, lets build the cars with imagination, and do it for fun in "the spirit of the Bug". If someone wants to build a car for a 12.00 breakout class fine, but I feel it would be far better if the class was set for 4 pounds per cu. in. with no minimum weight, vintage carbs in the spirit of the concept and pump gas as the fuel, and if they could run an 11.97 great, they deserve to win. My goal is to run in the high 12's and psych them on the line. Also feel that it would be neat to have the tree set for green only, no yellows after you stage and vary the time for the green. Try and bring back the kind of racing they had when the races started with a flag rather than a computer. End of rant.......off my soap box for now.
I would prefer that they give a guy a couple of flags and let him flag the race like it was until 1964 or 5. But barring that lets go to stage and then green. We could do that I think with the light system they have now with no modifications. I know they can stage and then all yellow then green with no count down of the yellow. I usually leave on the next to last yellow to cut a good light but with the stage then green you would have to react really fast. Lets see where did I put my Alzheimer's medicine? Roy
That's what I'm talking about, real reaction times, rather than anticipating the delay in the tree. Something to keep us old farts sharp and make the racing fun.
This is my first post on the HAMB. I thought I would start here because I have some questions about HA/GR. I really like the HA/GR concept, and whenever I hear about affordable heads up racing, I'm always interested. I'm from Tulsa, and I'm interested in knowing more about what exactly is going on with the SDRA, such as who is the SDRA, how many cars involved, etc. In making the decision to build or not, I need to know what I'm getting into locally. I would personally have no interest in an outlaw group. I would want to run with the HAMB rules with everyone else. I was concerned when I have seen opinions like, they have their place to run, let them do as they please, when I would be wanting to run by the rules and this would be my home track, and I wouldn't want to be known as one of the "Tulsa outlaws". I was at the recent Tulsa nostalgia drags and what I saw seemed to add to the confusion. It was my understanding that this was to be a SDRA event, with a HAMB invitation. I didn't inspect all the cars carefully, but I can only remember seeing 2 cars that were obviously outlaw, the rest and majority were HA/GR. The deviation from the HA/GR rules in these cars should account for at least a solid .7 advantage in a well sorted out car. Enough to ruin heads up racing with the HAMB cars. Also, I was surprised that this event was promoted with the HAMB name. The announcer always referred to these cars as "HAMB dragsters", call to staging was for "HAMB dragsters", never a mention of SDRA, or anything else. So, I suppose what I want to know is, does the SDRA just consist of a few cars now running, and are there more people wanting to run Tulsa by HA/GR rules than these few outlaws? I have the feeling that there are probably more than just me that are not building until they see how this plays out.
If you will come out to TRP today at 1 for tnt I will be more than happy to go over the Hornets car and the rules with you and whats going on Larry Jones
The announcer (that day) at Tulsa didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. He kept running his mouth all day on stuff he knew nothing about. We drove over from Arkansas to run with them and had a good time. Outlaws can be beat if you're on your game. Go ahead and build it HAMB rules.
I was one of the ha/gr rails that raced at Tulsa that day, the .7 sec gap between my rail and the winner is not based on a auto trans and 4 barrel carb. That is an extremely well built light car. If I lived in Tulsa like you do I would surely build to race the SDRA races, next year they are having 7 races plus the Old Time Drags. Ha/gr you only have one race at Mo/kan. So if you want to race more than just test and tune, this is the way to go. There race format also has the losers in a porch dog group, so you can continue racing. So me and cowboy Bob(another ha/gr) driving 15 hrs can race all day instead of getting put on the trailer if losing the 1st round. My car will stay a ha/gr car, but will be doing some changes to try an be more competetive in the SDRA races. So think about it before you build a car for 1 wk a summer. 2b-banjo
I was under the idea that the SDRA was the same as HAMB except for the auto trans and 4 barrel carb. Bob Hindman was the person who got me into this thing. I assumed that I could join SDRA as soon as my car was built and could run both HAMB and SDRA. The only thing is I have a stick trans and 3 two barrel carbs. Bob said I could have 348 as my car number. Is there some reason that a car can't run both as long as the rules are met for both? Bob Hindman was really nice to me and was enthusiastic for me to run a car. I chose to run a stick because I wanted to run HAMB also. I plan on adding another roll bar but that shouldn't hurt the status of the car. Roy
hey everyone i am new to all of the rules and regs. Me and my brother 22 and 15 and trying to build a homb dragster for the both of us. From stillwater oklahoma if anybody around this area please contact me have lots of questions. And would apperatice all the help i can get. Thank you
hey everyone i am new to all of the rules and regs. Me and my brother 22 and 15 and trying to build a homb dragster for the both of us. From stillwater oklahoma if anybody around this area please contact me have lots of questions. And would apperatice all the help i can get. Thank you
My 2c. Unfortunately rules are req'd. so that were all on the same page. Regarding this, i beleave moparsled hit the nail on the head. Polatics, profesionalization and the ultimate persuit of the lowest et. split hot rods and drag racing, thus ending the days of the "spirit" of which we seek to rekindle/replicate.
Therefore, it's our job to rekindle the flame and keep that spirit. We may have a rough road to travel in this quest, but with true hot rodder's ingenuity and determination we can succeed. As the years pass, and our origins fade, we need to keep the vision and retain some of "where it all began" in action and not stored away in a museum, but out front where it can be enjoyed and savored, planting the seeds in those who will keep the reality alive.
Hey guys I'm new to this class , but I'm going to build one anyways ,So here is my question ! Can I use a chopped and narrowed 46 international truck cab for my body ? Or do I need to stay with the classic tub ? Going to be running a straight 6 also !!!!
Howdy, from a relocated Hoosier. Some of my friends and I've considered eventual drop-on bodies for our cars. Haven't done anything as yet but several ideas have been brought up. Perhaps you could build a basic car, then do something in that vein.
Shouldnt be a problem, stay with the 1962 and older parts etc. Out friends overseas have built a couple with roadster bodies etc and they look pretty good. A 46 International cut down to size would be pretty appropiate.......study some of the builds from drewfus on this forum... Jim
we ran alot of races with flaggers it was easy to anticipate when the flag would drop when we went to a new track the first thing was to study the flagman
Well I have just about finished my second HA/GR car. I have adhered to the rules as strictly as they are written. Maybe I just think toooooo far out of the square for most people. 225 errect six pre 1962, 3 Ford 97's on a custom manifold, 3 speed with a straight through home built shifter, 4.11 : 1 borg warner diff. 6 point roll cage. Based on a 1924 Morris Cowely chassie and suspension. Tell me what you fellas in the USA think? The Slicks? just a shit stir.
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