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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by spoonman, Jul 27, 2006.

  1. spoonman
    Joined: Jul 17, 2006
    Posts: 45

    spoonman
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    from salem,ohio

    i have a 51 chevy with a 216. it idles fine and does good revving it up, but if i put the pedal to the floor it stumbles and fights its self especially ifi floor it at med to high rpms. any ideas? the cap,wires and dist are in good shape. my next guess is the carb(which sat 4ever) ****s or maybe timing.
    thanks,

    dan
     
  2. rsg2506
    Joined: Mar 6, 2005
    Posts: 360

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    Fuel filter might be clogged. My 235 had the same problem a while back and the filter was clogged with junk from the tank.
     
  3. 53sled
    Joined: Jul 5, 2005
    Posts: 5,817

    53sled
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    from KCMO

    If you can, swap another carb on, see what happens. make sure the idle circuit isn't covered (notch in the gasket) otherwise it will never idle right and operate well at high rpms. I had horrible vacuum leaks, switched to a holley/weber, runs so smooth its worth looking out of place ;)

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84292

    I ended up getting the linkage sorted out, just a little bend here and there.
     
  4. HEATHEN
    Joined: Nov 22, 2005
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    HEATHEN
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    from SIDNEY, NY

    If it's a car that's been sitting around, make sure the mice didn't fill the muffler with seat stuffing and seeds! It happened to me one time.
     
  5. markanthony
    Joined: Mar 5, 2001
    Posts: 340

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    Remove the tube from the side of the carb that goes to the vacuum advance at the base of the distributor. **** on it, release.. if your tongue or lip gets ****ed back into tube, you've ruled out the vacuum advance as a cause of your mid-range poor acceleration.

    ***uming you have the stock dizzy on there, take the distributor cap off, squirt just a little WD-40 down under the base plate that your points are attached to, this will provide the centrifugal advance within the distributor.

    How's your timing? do your points just open when that little ball in the flywheel comes across the marker in the flywheel housing? If mine is timed wrong it'll idle nicely and go as long as I'm gentle with it but when the timing slips I know it...
     
  6. bradley.w.lusink
    Joined: Jul 6, 2006
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    plugged main jets. probably got a lot of **** built-up in the jet well. pull the main out and blow-em out ,and the p***ages, clean out the well and try it again. as long as you're there make sure that your bowl is full, could also have **** built-up behind needle and seat preventing bowl from filling.
     
  7. Dave Downs
    Joined: Oct 25, 2005
    Posts: 948

    Dave Downs
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    from S.E. Penna

    OK - A real 'old-time' solution

    Reverse the wires on cylinders 3 & 4, pull the air cleaner, start the engine
    Open the throttle 3, 4, 5 times; you will be rewarded with a series of real nice back-fires from the carb, complete with a nice flame about a foot long

    Put the plug wires back where they belong and see if things are better

    I've actually done this (it was 1960) and sometimes it worked.............

    The theory is that the backfiring can jar loose any minor plugs/clogs in the carburator p***ages, and sometimes you'd get lucky
     
  8. I say definately timing.
     
  9. spoonman
    Joined: Jul 17, 2006
    Posts: 45

    spoonman
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    from salem,ohio

    thanks guys. i'll see if i can work on it sat. i actually have an extra carb to throw on and i'll reset timing.
     
  10. forty3
    Joined: May 2, 2005
    Posts: 161

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    i had the same trouble with mine until i replaced the distributor. the shaft was so wobbly it would miss points at higher rpms. get a rebuilt if you havent.
     
  11. brjr51
    Joined: Dec 27, 2001
    Posts: 102

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    Probably want to disconnect the vacuum wiper hose before ya try this.

    Bob
     
  12. spoonman
    Joined: Jul 17, 2006
    Posts: 45

    spoonman
    Member
    from salem,ohio

    i replaced the carb. it still ****s at higher rpm's. i set timing. i think i might pull the distributor to lookfor wear. ugh. at elast i can get it around town for now. i might get someone to recheck my work. i've never done this before on these cars.
     

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