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241 Hemi Starter

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by S2X01, Apr 3, 2013.

  1. S2X01
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    Got it pulled this afternoon just to clean it up and bench test it.
    How do I go about testing it? I've never messed with one that only has one wire.
    Does the wire post see - and the case see +? Can I use 12V just to see if it spins?
     
  2. OLD HEMI
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    You ground the starter to the Neg. post on a battery , clamp hold the starter and touch the Pos. cable to stud on the starter. if it spins ,ok if not start over to see what is wrong.

    Lee
     
  3. Hnstray
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    The single post is the current input.........the case is ground. However, even if it spins, that is not a dependable indication about it's internal condition. The condition of the brushes, the commutator surface condition, bushings, starter drive, etc.

    If all you want to know is if it works, that will tell you.........if you want to know it's condition, either dis***emble it, or better yet, take it to an automotive electrical shop.

    Ray
     
  4. ezdusit
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    I believe that engine came out of a car with a positive ground ('53 or '54 Dodge). So you'll want to ground the case of the starter to the + terminal of the battery and connect the wire to the - terminal to test it. Good luck.
     
  5. oldolds
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    The starter will work either way. In the new millennium it will probably be hooked up neg. groung anyway.
     
  6. S2X01
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    Thanks guys. I should be able to test it at work tomorrow.
    Here's to hoping!
     
  7. S2X01
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    So I pulled it apart and cleaned a bunch of internals. After re***embly, I put power to it. It tries to spin...moves a couple teeth....and then stops. Like something is still too tight. Maybe pull it back apart and clean everything much better? It's the original starter, but only has 52K miles on it. Everything electrical inside looked good.
     
  8. plodge55aqua
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    Hows the shaft... if the gear ( teeth) dont turn.. I bet the center shaft is Broke. I had the same thing happen to mine.
     
  9. S2X01
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    Seemed fine. You mean the shaft with the actual starter gear on it? I pulled all of that apart. Even cleaned and reset the little spring loaded "stoppers". All that seemed to be fine.
     
  10. plodge55aqua
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    there should be two shafts inside. one from the back of the casing to the armature and from the armature to the gear. maybe check at the lock pin.. I seem to remember mine breaking at that point.
     
  11. S2X01
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    Hmmm. I'll pull it apart again tomorrow or Wednesday and take some pictures...

    I'm hoping it just needs a good cleaning after 45 years of storage.
     
  12. plodge55aqua
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  14. Andy
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    That is not a 241 starter. The 241 starters do not have the solinoid. There is only one shaft. You have a dry bearing or an electrical problem. You can check the field coils for continuity and for shorts in the armature with a ohmeter.
     
  15. S2X01
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    Good continuity. I think it's mechanically related. Tearing it back apart tomorrow!
     
  16. S2X01
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    Dis***embled it again. Checked everywhere for continuity and proper resistance.
    Cleaned everywhere thoroughly AGAIN...and this time hit the bearings with some 1000 grit sandpaper.
    Spins like new!!!
    Time to drop the tank, get a battery, and start a build thread!
     
  17. plodge55aqua
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    I know it has a selinoid.. thats actually out of a 1956 Dodge, Chrysler desoto , Plymouth manual too...


    Go to hear you got the issue Solved for the 241..
     

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