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Technical 283 flywheel starter confusion.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Mark Fuller, Feb 6, 2022.

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  1. Mark Fuller
    Joined: Sep 17, 2021
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    Mark Fuller

    I had to replace my flywheel and pressure plate on my 63’ 283 with 3 speed transmission (4 bolt cover). However when I purchased the replacement parts I realized that the previous owner had installed the larger flywheel (14 inch 168 tooth).

    The current starter is an AC Delco 1107320.

    My questions:

    1. Do need to get a new starter or will this one work.
    1.1: if I need a new one… what starter will work.

    2. Is there a reason that my 283 had a 14 inch flywheel.

    3. What flywheel is OE?
     
  2. NoRust
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    :confused: If there is confusion. :confused:

    Squirrel (or another Hamb member) will reply sooner or later and give us the correct information. The H.A.M.B. is great!
     
  3. Calling Butch back from the beyond...this question was right in his wheelhouse.
     
  4. jetnow1
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    Why not stay with the larger setup? The smaller flywheel used a straight bolt mount, the larger one uses a staggered
    bolt mount. Some starters are equipped with both. What do you have on your starter?
     
  5. sdluck
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    You can just change the nose cone or buy another starter.I believe your current starter has side by side bolt holes and you larger flywheel needs staggered bolt holes. If you buy a mini starter they have 2 sets of bolt holes. Most mini starters do not have a r terminal,so be careful of that.
     
  6. Johnny Gee
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  7. Mark Fuller
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    Mark Fuller

    the bolt holes on my bell housing are the image below.
     

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  8. Mark Fuller
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    I do t have “side by side” or “staggered” bolt holes. Please look at my response with the bolt holes image
     
  9. squirrel
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    The 14" flywheel is the only one that will work with that starter, as far as I know.

    If we could see all the stuff that was on it, and know whether or not it was all working that way, and see what you're replacing it all with, we might could give you more helpful answers.
     
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  10. Mark Fuller
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    Mark Fuller

    Before I took it apart, yes it was all working.

    However the pressure plate holes in the flywheel were over torqued at some point because the threads (on the flywheel) seem to be stretched out.

    The pressure plate is some no name from Korea. I can’t even find a part number or image on Google.

    What else would you want pics of? Everywhere I’ve read says that the 14” flywheel was only for big blocks so I’m not sure why the previous owner put one on, or why the starter (which is OE replacement as per Napa) fits.
     
  11. Mr48chev
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    OK something is hinky here. That starter number shows up as mid 60's Corvette or Chevelle like this one on Ebay. RARE ORIGINAL 1965 Chevy Corvette Chevelle 1107320 Starter Dated 5B16 | eBay that has the straight across bolt to the block bolt pattern. Is this the nose cone that your starter has and can you show us a photo or two of said starter? It may be that someone already swapped nose cones if it does bolt to the bellhousing.

    Now explain exactly what the whole setup is, figuring that the 283 is probably mid 60's what is it in? What bellhousing does it have (photo of the whole front of the bellhousing works) what trans do you have and what do you have it in?

    I'm thinking mid 60's car engine in a 55/early 60's truck and you are going by the year and original application of the engine rather than what it is in.
     
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  12. Johnny Gee
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    Per your photo it's like Jim said, 14" flywheel. We need a photo of your starter since the number you listed is on the motor portion of the starter.
     
  13. Mark Fuller
    Joined: Sep 17, 2021
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    Mark Fuller

    Ahhhh that makes a lot of sense. I’ve got a 1963 283 inside a c20.

    When I bought the flywheel I didn’t even know there were 2 possible sizes so I just picked one up from Napa using their online vehicle checker. Serves me right to trust those.

    When I got home I realized they were different and the research began, leading me to apparently incorrect information and more confusion.

    Now looking at rockauto it says the 168 tooth is the correct one. Thank you all so much for the clarification.
     
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  14. Mr48chev
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    I rewrote post 11 as I came off a bit harsh but yes you were looking in the car section rather than the 63 C 20 section before.
     

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