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Projects 29 Model A Tudor, lots of fab from the ground up

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by smitty29, Feb 21, 2013.

  1. Nice fab work. HRP
     
  2. hemifalcon
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    very nice work... verrrrryyy....
     
  3. motoandy
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    nice work. It looks tight were the gas pedal will end up. I would have an issue with my size 14s.
     
  4. smitty29
    Joined: Dec 21, 2010
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    from Illinois

    Thank you guys


    It is slightly on the tight side but with the pedal location and types of pedals I selected there is room for some of the bigger shoes. May not want to try and make it to florida in two days in this car but should still be real fun to drive in spirts.

    Hope to have some more pics this weekend
     
  5. barrnone50
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    from texas

    You sure do have the skills on the fab and finish! How do you do your seams?
    Great Job!
     
  6. smitty29
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    Thank you

    When doing my seams I take the time to get the cut straight and gap as minimal as possible for a butt weld. Then I TIG weld the whole thing with .030 or .035 weld wire. Then I file or grind the weld seam down and do a little hammer / dolly work where needed.
     
  7. barrnone50
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    from texas

    Thanks !! Again very nice job on your build!!
     
  8. Hot Rods Ta Hell
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    Nice work! That 2x4 A frame makes me nervous.
     
  9. smitty29
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    Thank you.

    Yeah It looks rickety but a big beam was actually anchored into the ceeling, That was just to prevent damage to the ceeling. 40 bucks in hardware vs a 2500 dollar hoist at the time. Ill be buying the hoist soon haha.
     
  10. ESGEE
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    Really like those fabrication threads like yours, will follow this build for sure....
     
  11. metalman
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    Judging from the wheel tubs, tunnel and floor work you got some good sheetmetal fab skill but I going to critize the frame a bit. First the spring perch was a bit overkill at first but then the notch (I assume to clear the radiator) virtually took out the purpose of gusseting down the back, those plates on the back of the tube really don't do anything now, it looks like the perch is really only supported by the top 2" of the tubing. Quite a bit of twisting going on to support with that little bit of attachment even if that tube is 3/16 wallSecond is a cosmetic thing. I'm guessing the radiator sits behind the front crossmember and if so that 2x3 tube is going to stand out and is pretty ugly IMHO (sorry). A heavy wall 2" round crossmember with the rails tapered up to meet would look a whole lot cleaner to me plus if you have the room to move the radiator back an inch or so the spring perch could wrap it better. Not trying to beat you up on your build, just a couple things that would really help it look more professional ( and less RR'y) without a lot of work.
     
  12. smitty29
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    from Illinois

    Thank you for the compliments and I do appreciate your concern. In fabricating sometimes you have to be fluid in your design. This is where we were bouncing some ideas around. I personally like the rectangle tube of the front end and the end of the rails will be finished. Yes I did error on the large side (for modifications) and I did cut a chunk out of it. However being 1/4 inch plate gussets on a 3/16 inch front cross member this design is still stronger that both the spring perch kits that speedway motors sells especially the front one they sell for round tube. We did calculations and stress analysis on the front end and that amount of material on the gusset could support a lot more weight than what it is supporting.
    Secondly comparing this amount of material to the spring shackles on the front spring which are supporting the same amount of weight with far less material should restore confidence.
    The bracket will be sculpted to look much better during the finishing process.

    Thank you
     
  13. metalix_421
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    nice looking fab work on the sedan
     
  14. HotRodHighley
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    Very nice fab work..really like the trans tunnel and floor. Very clean looking..
     
  15. smitty29
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    Thank you Guys!!
     
  16. smitty29
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    Finally back at it. Had to chop the radiator shell.

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    Thought this was kind of a cool shot
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  17. smitty29
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    been getting a lot done lately. made the gas tank, tail light mounts and took the body off the frame for paint

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    welds from the finish welding work

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  18. ThirtyFordor
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    Looks amazing great metal fab skills wats the time lapse on this project?
     
  19. super workmanship.. will be building similar, soon.. was wondering about the clutch and brake pedal, with the auto trans...????
     
  20. classic gary
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    just a question, are those twigs gonna hold up the headlights, or is that just a "how do the headlights look there" phase?
     
  21. 416Ford
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    ^^^X2
    This was a concern of mine also. As a steel fabricator, NOT a frame builder I would think that you have put all the front weight on a tear condition.
    If you calculated it correctly then the gussets are useless and would not have been put there.

    Your work looks great on everything else, this one spot would be my only concern.
     
  22. smitty29
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    Thank you . I have been working on it for about a year.

    Thank you, Yeah I had them in there from when I was thinking about a manual trans (but all my other cars are manual and wanted something I could just get in and drive with out any work for this one). Was mainly space claim. Its a its a single brake pedal and throttle now haha.

    I have been bouncing around ideas for those. want to replicate a light bar of some sort, yes getting ideas. I started with machining the buckets that the lights mount into on the lathe and made them a little thin accidentally and thought Id give 1/2 bar stock a shot but they do shake will most likely have to go thicker.

    Thank you . I will have to grab some updated pictures of that spring mount, I have made a revision and there is more to it than the pictures are revealing. The gussets wrap 3 sides of the rectangle tube and is 1/4" plate 1" tall all the way around.

    Thank you
     
  23. smitty29
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    This is what speedway offers, and mine is much more "beefy " than this.
    What are your thoughts? From my previous reply, The gussets wrap 3 sides of the rectangle tube and is 1/4" plate 1" tall all the way around.

    This one scares me and speedway sells it
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    Thank you for your input
     
  24. 416Ford
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    Your skill level is above mine so I am not trying to start an argument. I was just voicing a concern and figured someone with more knowledge would dispel my concerns or validate the concern.
    This is what I am looking at:
    One you put the cope in this for the radiator your gusset is not doing any good. Can not see the front to see if your is welded there or not.

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    In this one there are welds wrapping there gusset as does your but it is also welded in the front.
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  25. 416Ford
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    FYI If your cope was more of a radius I would not be so concerned.
     
  26. Lovin' it, good looking welds, won't be a problem.
     
  27. smitty29
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    Thanks guys! I Like the discussion. Ill grab some updated pics hopefully tonight. That one with the big notch is dated, ran into fitment issues early in the build and have revised it since then.
     
  28. best2923
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  29. R Frederick
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    Holy Shit. I was enjoying these fab pics, and I realized who you are when I saw the car parked next to it, lol. Good to see you are working on the tudor now, can't wait to see it out.
     

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