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3 1/2 year old Coker tires sold as new

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by JimSig, Mar 6, 2013.

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  1. SquireDon
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    If Coker won't pick up their 3 year old tires, then dispute the charge on the card.

    consumers have rights.
     
  2. black 62
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    they are new tires...
     
  3. Mine were sold to me on 3/2/12. Made 44 week of 2011

    I'd be pissed if mine were 3 years old.
     
  4. ninosdad
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    Call Coker ask to speak to Corky, you just might. There are porbably not any others newer in their wharehouse. Run them...or be ready to spend a few bucks with UPS and start over with Diamondback.
     
  5. Don's Hot Rods
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    I don't think there is any problem. I have brand new tires on my rpu project that I bought 3 years ago and the car won't be done for another year at least. They are just sitting in my shop aging more every day.

    I think all the hype on the evening news has made us all paranoid about these dates of manufacture. Hell, before they came out with that news how many of us successfully ran tires that were out of date and never had an issue.

    Don
     
  6. auto shop
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    Ask Cooker what the guarantee is on the tires. In my state tire dealers warranty is four years from purchase. Make several copies of the recipe if something goes wrong you will need it for proof.
     
  7. tfeverfred
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    Exactly. Some college guys got a $1,000,000 grant to study tires and said they COULD be bad. Now everyones sealing themselves in a damn mayonaise jar.

    5 years ago, nobody gave a rats ass and now, everyone wants to be a bubble wrapped Betty. Jeesh.

    Truth be told, I bet half the people crying in this thread, have NEVER or will NEVER, look at thier tires.
     
  8. slammed
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    Ah, drama. Had an old, but tread was good tire let go last summer. Dated for a reason.
     
  9. tfeverfred
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    Not to doubt you, but can you see what the manufacturer would ask? What kind of road conditions? What speed? What speed rating were the tires? What air pressure were you running? What kind of rim? ETC...

    Not defending the companies, but there seems to be a lot of variables to consider before just saying age destroyed a tire.
     
  10. BJR
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    Old tires blowing is a common topic on the Airstream forum. There have been lots of posts from people with classic Airstreams with wheel well or body damage from old tires that have blown while traveling down the road.
     
  11. tfeverfred
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    If I sold tires, I'd say replace them after 5 years. LOTS of repeat customers. Just like 3,000 mile oil changers. The companies LOVE a good panic.



    And those studies say 6 years, IF STORED PROPERLY and from the date they are "in service". NOT the date made.

    "The tire aging recommendations are a best practice to follow. Tire aging is not based on a chronological order alone. Other factors affect tire aging including the material properties of the tire and heat, which is a key variable that ages tires. If you live in a warm climate, run on overloaded or underinflated tires, or drive at sustained high speeds, the heat generated from any or all of these conditions can cause a tire to age more rapidly.

    Our advice: Replace the tires by the automobile and tire manufacturer recommendations. (Chrysler, Ford, and Volkswagen are just a few of the companies that recommend removing tires older than six years.)" Consumers Digest.
     
  12. Cracker123
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    ABC? John Stossel? Aren't they the ones who faked the "Chevy trucks with side tanks are going to explode" story back in the day? Fear factor 10, credibility zero.
     
  13. slammed
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    Your point? My point right now: No one was 'crying' on this thread. That is a demeaning remark. Keep on point. The OP has a legitment question pertaining to his date on the tires he purchased. The Coker people can step up and give their data pertaining to how their tires age on the self, and what to expect (within reason) once in use. And their manufacturing step-by-step process would be beneficial as well.
     
  14. Cracker123
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    Simple.. May of 1916..... :D
     
  15. AIR PRESSURE is the most common cause of tire failure
    an under inflated tire WILL gain exesseve air pressure and cause blow out
    Bridgestone did a u tube on welding on a wheel with no air in it and it gained a lot of air
    http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1952293
    Scrowl down and enlarge
    this just showes what heat does for tire pressure
     
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  16. blowby
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    A friend of mine manages the tire center at the local Costco. Per him, they sell tires up to two years past d.o.m., the rest get "sent back". I offered to take them....
     
  17. tfeverfred
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    Where did I say "crying"?:confused: Where's the demeaning remark? Those are questions that MIGHT get asked. THAT'S my point. I didn't realize opinions weren't allowed.:rolleyes:
    hahah....wow.
     
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  18. 29AVEE8
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    If I paid new money for an almost 4 year old tire, condom, fan-belt..., I would not be happy.
     
  19. remember pulling out of Austin in my 64' about 1977 running those new Firestone "500" blew the shit out it right at the north bound Georgetown sign....pic around here somewhere....great new tires was the sales pitch...
     
  20. Cracker123
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    I have a cheap ass "Cornell" tire that is about 5 years old. Bought it and had it mounted and stuck it under the truck in the spare tire carrier. Never seen 1 inch of ground, still has all the little rubber ticks sticking out on it. Totally flat now and won't hold air, it's dry rotted. Air leaks out through the cracks in the sidewall. Meanwhile the 4 Uniroyals I bought the same time are holding up just fine. I think the quality of rubber in some tires (especially the cheaper brands) is very low & makes them more susceptible to dry rotting.
     
  21. Hot Rods Ta Hell
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    From Coker's website (doesn't say anything about time or mileage);
    TIRE WARRANTY

    We want you to be pleased with your purchase, so we guarantee our tires to be free from defects in workmanship and materials for the life of the tread. Adjustment is made on a prorated basis (you pay for tread wear used).


    I agree with what JEM said- Coker and others have to do a good size run of a certain tire to make it viable. Maybe they'll have to do smaller runs or start discounting tires that have a shelf life past a certain time frame-swap meet special/last of the batch.
    They've been called out now and everyone will soon be asking for "fresh" castings when they order.


    I've ran tires far older than 4-6 years of age w/o problems. Having said that, I'd be pissed to pay for new/3 + year old tires.

    Imagine a paranoid guy with a vintage car that was only driven an average of 200 miles per month (ie;restored garage queen) and he dropped $1000 every 4 years to replace the tires. That comes out to 10 cents a mile in tire costs!
     
  22. Cerberus
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    My twin brother who lives in Germany told me two years ago, about the German vehicle annual inspection. He said his car will not pass inspection if the tires are more than seven (7) years old. :eek:
     
  23. Maybe they should advertise them as N O S tires.
     
  24. AllSteel36
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    As a kid when a friends of my Dad's was restoring a '39 Pontiac, his buddy called him over.

    He had just gotten his new tires on it...bare frame...

    As we left, my Dad said "the first worst investment you can make when building a car is tires...save it for the last investment"

    Circa 1970...

    My Dad wasn't a genius, but had some smarts.
     
  25. AllSteel36
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    BTW, I have a set of 4...kinda smooth..tires that are on my '32 Dodge wood wheels...i could carve a slice off, write my name in cement with the rubber,,,they have no air in them,,,but hold the front end and rearend up, and roll fairly well.

    Who want's to buy them and run them on their hotrod?

    I'm sure you've run worse...
     
  26. TomP64
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    Maybe i'm just lucky, my slicks on my race car are over ten years old and still hook. The tires on my ramptruck are over 20 years old and hold air just fine. I'm trying to recall the last time i've driven on tires NEWER than four years old... not very often.
     
  27. AllSteel36
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    One last thing, my Keystone light ramblings have nothing to do with Coker, just old tires.
     

  28. That's awesome! But really sunlight weather being mounted to rims with air is what ruins tires. If they've set in dry storage they should be fine. I've got 2 pairs of new unused tires (never been mounted) that's been in storage they're probably as old as my 6 year old son I won't think twice about using them but of course I didn't pay brand new price for them. Then again I understand why you're pissed you buy something "new" you expect it to be made in the past few months not about to celebrate a 4th birthday. You would think they would purge they're older stock by having a sale or something. But I don't know of anybody that gets "a good deal" on cokers unless they literally stole them. Coker doesn't give their dealers a decent break at all. But if you want new vintage tires what other choices do you have?
     
  29. JEM
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    A tire stored indoors and out of sunlight will last a long time, but I'm not sure I'd ever mount and use anything over ten years old.

    I recently dragged home a prospective beater. Friend needed to get it hauled away one step ahead of the HOA. Hadn't been registered since 1996. Put a battery, a fuel pump, a clutch slave, a left-rear brake cylinder, changed the fluids and some vacuum hoses, so far so good. It is, alas, of non-HAMB vintage, so it still needs to be subjected to the smog shop's tender mercies before it's official.

    The tires turned 21 the week I checked their date code, so I poured them each a shot of whiskey. The inconsiderate little buggers didn't drink it, though, so someone had to.

    The tires hold air, but it's still not going very far on them...
     
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  30. There was a time when the new tires were stored for years by guys who believed they got better with age. I know several old fellas who kept em under their beds.
     
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