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1952-59 Ford 3 spd Bellhousing

Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by Kelly Olsen, Mar 20, 2024.

  1. Kelly Olsen
    Joined: Mar 16, 2024
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    Kelly Olsen
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    Hello all,
    So, I have a 55 Ford wagon that has a BW 259 3 spd trans. I am looking at possibly swapping out the Y block and was wondering if there is another bellhousing that would bolt to that trans and a 289/302/351? I'm ***uming there may be aftermarket ones, and any info on anything that would work would be helpful.
    Thanks
     
  2. Paul2748
    Joined: Jan 8, 2003
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    Around 66 or so Ford changed the top bolt pattern on their bellhousings so the early trans will not just bolt up w/o redrilling the bellhousing for the early pattern. Adding to this, the hole in the later bells are larger so the bearing retainer on the early trans is not a snug fit into the bell.

    I had the opposite problem when I installed a 4 speed toploader behind a 312. The bearing retainer on the trans was bigger than the retainer so I had to machine down the retainer in order to fit it into the hole. Fortunately, I didn't have a bolt pattern problem because I used a very early top loader that had the same pattern as the bell. Ford used this early pattern only in the first few years of the 4 speed toploader and may have used the pattern only in the 5 bolt bell (before they went to the 6 bolt bell on the small blocks
     
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  3. Ford changed the transmission bolt pattern in '65. The '49-64 were all 'narrow pattern', the '65-up are 'wide pattern'. The fly in the ointment is Ford also changed the bellhousing-to-block pattern from 5 bolt to 6 bolt on the SBF at the same time so the bells don't interchange.

    The common aluminum '65-up 6-bolt bells don't have enough meat in the right places to re-drill to the narrow pattern. Ford did make a small number of dual-pattern 6-bolt bells as service parts (primarily to allow installing the '65-66 motor in the '64-back cars in case of a warranty replacement without replacing the trans) but those are extremely rare. Equally rare is the cast-iron 6-bolt bell Ford used in some vans, but these can be redrilled to the early pattern. I've been told that Ford also cast some cast-iron bells for the 300 six in trucks that can also be redrilled that use the same bell-to-block pattern, but there may be an issue with starter location and flywheel choice.

    There is one off-t******lf solution. Lakewood makes a 6-bolt SBF ****tershield that has both trans patterns and 'adaptor rings' to fit the early trans. Not cheap though... 15200 Lakewood Bellhousing - Small Block Ford - JEGS

    It'll be cheaper to just replace the transmission if all you have is a three-speed. '65-up Ford toploader three speeds are out there, and the lighter-duty versions aren't big $$$ and should be adequate behind a 289/302.
     
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  4. Paul2748
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    An added benefit that Steve didn't mention that the heavier duty later 3 speeds were syncro n first gear.
     

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