Register now to get rid of these ads!

Hot Rods 30/ 31 / 32 frame question

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by BAILEIGH INC, Mar 10, 2013.

  1. BAILEIGH INC
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
    Posts: 3,629

    BAILEIGH INC
    Alliance Vendor

    Sorry if this is a rookie question, but I am just trying to understand better.

    The time I have spent on the HAMB, I have fallen in love with the 31' coupe. I see so many guys wanting a 32 frame. What is the difference and why are the 32 frames so popular compared to a 30 or 31?

    Can someone actually show a picture with the benefits of a 32?
     
  2. dana barlow
    Joined: May 30, 2006
    Posts: 5,385

    dana barlow
    Member
    from Miami Fla.
    1. Y-blocks

    In 32 Ford made a much stronger frame and it had a formed insirt that a lot of guys love the look of were the fender/body kind of fitted into.
    The Ford "A" frame[much the very same from 1928 to 1931 needs boxing plates added to get close to as stiff as 1932 is to start with.
     
  3. unkledaddy
    Joined: Jul 21, 2006
    Posts: 2,865

    unkledaddy
    Member

    Rigidity and appearance (stamping).
     
  4. wingedexpress
    Joined: Dec 24, 2006
    Posts: 893

    wingedexpress

    Taller frame and a k member for strength.Don't forget longer wheelbase makes it easier to fit a big motor.
     
  5. Besides being a very nice looking frame, it hides everything that tends to "hang down" and be seen under the car. Just take a look at the Model A's that are running a stock frame as opposed to a Model A with a '32 frame. It becomes quite clear which looks better.
     
  6. kscarguy
    Joined: Aug 22, 2007
    Posts: 1,611

    kscarguy
    Member

    Full fendered, use a Model A frame, No fenders, use the 32 frame.
     
  7. I think it originally started out as a matter of performance, if you took the heavy '32 body off the V-8 chassis and put on a light roadster body, usually a '28-'29 A or '27 T, you ended up with a pretty fast hot rod. Later on it became more about appearance.
     
  8. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 32,368

    The37Kid
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    The fact that the '32 is wider than an A frame just makes for a neat looking body to frame connection. An A frame being narrow makes the body overhang and doesn't look as smooth IMO. Bob
     
  9. need louvers ?
    Joined: Nov 20, 2008
    Posts: 12,901

    need louvers ?
    Member

    The rails on a '32 are quite a bit more "scuptured" and pretty than a Model "A" frame rails were. The "A"s rails were very simple 4" box section pieces that are far back under the body on those cars. By '32 Ford had moved thew rails out to the body line and created a true perimeter frame and left part of it exposed. All that said, I'm one of the very few on the board here that much prefers an "A" frame under an "A" coupe in either hiboy or full fendered garb. Matter of fact, the only "A" I would put a '32 frame under would be a '28 or '29 roadster. That was truly the only "common" use of the "A" body, '32 combo until the current traditional era.
     
  10. Mr48chev
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
    Posts: 35,620

    Mr48chev
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    That and buying a banged up 32 V8 Sedan and pulling the body off and putting an inexpensive and lighter A or T body made for a quick way to have a V8 hot rod in the late 30's and the 40's. It saved building motor mounts if you put a later engine in it in the 40's too. A real winner for a guy who didn't have access to a welder.
     
  11. tommy
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
    Posts: 14,757

    tommy
    Member Emeritus

    [​IMG]

    Model A frame.

    [​IMG]

    Deuce rails... I think it was a cosmetic issue once it became popular.
     
  12. Rehpotsirhcj
    Joined: May 7, 2006
    Posts: 1,533

    Rehpotsirhcj
    ALLIANCE MEMBER
    1. Northwest HAMBers

    Another visual, big differences.
    Model A frame:

    [​IMG]


    32 frame:
    [​IMG]
     
  13. Garry Carter
    Joined: Mar 11, 2002
    Posts: 575

    Garry Carter
    Member

    Then there is the issue of wheelbase. I think you'll find a stock Model A wheelbase is in the neighborhood of 103 1/2" while a `32 is 106". Doesn't sound like an awful lot, but when you're installing a V-8 of any kind in an older car, that little 2 1/2" can make a bunch of difference.

    That said, pay attention to what others have added here. The wider, stiffer frame, the pleasing aesthetics created by the reveal in the `32, and the fact that it was actually built to accomodate a V-8 have long made it a favorite.

    But ... there are some of us around that still like the look of a Model A on a Model A frame. Mossbacks!
     
  14. need louvers ?
    Joined: Nov 20, 2008
    Posts: 12,901

    need louvers ?
    Member

    Hey Gary, post a side view of your car so he can see how cool an "A" on "A" rails actually looks!
     
  15. need louvers ?
    Joined: Nov 20, 2008
    Posts: 12,901

    need louvers ?
    Member

    While Gary does that I just remembered I have a scan of my favorite one ever...
     

    Attached Files:

  16. flthd31
    Joined: Aug 5, 2007
    Posts: 600

    flthd31
    Member

    That's funny...that very same car is why I prefer a 32 frame.
    My first model A I put side pipes to cover that big void under the body.

    [​IMG]

    The one I'm building now has a 32 frame with shortened wheelbase so a stock hood will fit.

    [​IMG]

    It's just a matter of individual preference...that's why all rods are different.
     
  17. tommy
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
    Posts: 14,757

    tommy
    Member Emeritus

    PHP:
    The one I'm building now has a 32 frame with shortened wheelbase so a stock hood will fit. 
    We did one years ago and had Rootlieb make a custom length one.
     
  18. BAILEIGH INC
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
    Posts: 3,629

    BAILEIGH INC
    Alliance Vendor

    OK, now is see.
     

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.