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Projects '30 A Tudor Sedan build

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Greenblade, Mar 23, 2023.

  1. Tim
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    They all look the same on the outside. The only visual thing I can think of other than the number on the block which you could print or save a cheat sheet for is the earlier motors have a hole in the back of the block behind the intake manifold from at least 67 and older. It’s for the road draft tube or pcv .
     
  2. lumpy 63
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    Also make sure it has a two piece rear main seal, the later ones 88? And newer are one piece.
     
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  3. lumpy 63
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    Look for the " how to rebuild your small block Chevy" book by David Vizard. Its the book I used when I was a kid , its loaded with great info like casting #s etc.
     
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  4. Greenblade
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    I'll be on the lookout for an early 350 block then. If I find one, I'll probably still take pictures and ask the hamb, better safe than sorry
     
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  5. rusty valley
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    That drivers side fender looks like a proper repair, whatcha complainin about ? I see an old /2 beemer hiding in the shop, I'm a Beemer guy too
     
  6. Greenblade
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    I actually was thinking of keeping the fenders mostly as they are, a few cracks and sharp bits will need some work. Someone clearly cared enough to fix it and drive it like that, so as the Squirrel Nut Zippers said, "if it's good enough for granddad, it's good enough for me" 20230326_113530.jpg

    That BMW is my dad's @rusty rocket . I always thought it was a cool bike. I've never seen the thing run, something was wrong with it but not sure what. 20210903_125418.jpg 20210903_125425.jpg 20210903_125432.jpg
     
  7. rusty valley
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    Very nice original bike !
     
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  8. rusty rocket
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    Want to buy it. 68 r60. Quit riding it because it had a tick on the right side almost positive it was a sticky lifter.
     
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  9. wheeldog57
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    @Greenblade model As have the VIN stamped on the top of driver's side frame rail a couple or 3 times. I've seen guys use an engine hoist and carefully placed straps to pull off a body solo. Keep us in the loop bud
     
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  10. rusty valley
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    @rusty rocket , currently my life is in this state...don't need any more, don't want any more, can't afford any more, have no more room to store any more...etc. Nice bike tho, /2 beemers are quite valuable these days, you have a good investment there. I've had two, a 56, and a 67, wish I still had them. Happy motoring.
     
  11. Greenblade
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    ok so I plan on removing the fenders and unbolting the body around noon today. I've never done anything like this before so if any of yall got advice on this process, that'd be great. I'll be bringing, wrenches, torch, some sort of lubricant. and a weed wacker.
     
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  12. Kevin Ardinger
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    My advice would be to add a 12 pack to your list of tools.
     
  13. As far as fixing the fenders, just remember that it probably wasn't driven over 50 mph that way. A lot of wind resistance at higher speeds might cause havoc with that torn sheet metal. I'd at least tack some welds to hold it together.
    Love what you're doing, tho. I've got a 29 that I should start putting together so I'm watching!
     
  14. wheeldog57
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    It's 9:30, are you done yet? With any luck you'll get the body bolts out without too much hassle. Good luck
     
  15. manyolcars
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    86 and newer are one piece rear seal
     
  16. Greenblade
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    My plans to do this solo are a no go. This is as far as I could get before every bolt was stuck. Need help from people who know their stuff. I want to pull it out and work on some flat hard ground but the front end is just sitting in loose 20230416_123405.jpg
     
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  17. Greenblade
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    Found a few body bolts I could get loose. And cleared out loads of moist soil from the back seat area. Surprised how rot free most of it was. Despite not getting done what i planned, i had fun working on something again. 20230416_144753.jpg 20230416_144802.jpg 20230416_151640.jpg
     
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  18. Greenblade
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    Bought a hood. Flames were a bonus!:cool: 20230417_191501.jpg 20230417_192253.jpg 20230417_192257.jpg 20230417_192302.jpg
     
  19. stubbsrodandcustom
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    I like fenderless everything. Here is the tudor I did a few years ago...

    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/1931-ford-tudor-vintage-hotrod-rebuild.1202123/

    The SBC is the pumpkin spice latte of motor swaps in my eyes. Take a look at my banger coupe also if you want to go down the banger rabbit hole. If you can source a good running banger for a couple hundred bucks, throw a downdraft on it and get out there on the roads alot faster. You can always swap motors later if you want. Plus you can make the old gal run and drive very orig to know where you are coming from and where you are going. Just trying to get you an option since you are trying to get through school etc. Cheap fun can be had in these cars with not much work...
     
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  20. Greenblade
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    This morning I pulled the passenger door off to work on that. It needs some sandblasting and patchwork on the bottom, I intend to do this myself. While I was doing that I took a closer look at the fenders and did some thinking, I should probably get better fenders. I think I can make the drivers side fenders work but the passenger side ones look to be too far gone. 20230430_102309.jpg 20230430_102315.jpg 20230430_102319.jpg 20230430_102324.jpg 20230430_102328.jpg 20230430_102333.jpg 20230430_102352.jpg 20230430_102400.jpg 20230430_102408.jpg
     
  21. I love the "Farmer repair" on the front fender , made to last a while. Model "A"'s want to be chopped 5 inches.
     
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  22. Greenblade
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    Gonna forget about engine stuff for now (but if you do have old weiand stuff, send me a message)
    My main focus will be fixing up the passenger door.
    This door has none of the innards, it's just a shell, so I'm wondering if there's a place that makes reproduction door parts or if I have to find used? 20230430_102408.jpg
     
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  23. Kevin Ardinger
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    Aren’t there small journal 327s? Like the early ones?
     
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  24. Tim
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    Yeah I think so but it’s less common to come across I believe
     
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  25. lostone
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    You can get lower outer skin patch panels and the lower inner structure patch panels for the doors.

    I suggest you repair the doors from what I can see. Used doors aren't cheap and besides chances are any doors you find for sale will need body work anyway if not patch panels too.


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  26. Greenblade
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    I plan on getting a patch and doing the work myself, this door is already second hand, my Papa said he bought it on ebay years ago.
    I'm looking for all the mechanical stuff for the inside, window crank, door lock handle, etc.
     
  27. lostone
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    Alot of the mechanicals inside the door are available as repo products now. Latches, window mech, etc.

    I'm looking to update mine, people say the late 90's jeep cherokee window mechs good in these doors but the down side is the manual window tracks aren't reproduced.

    .
     
  28. AHotRod
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    I thought you could use some pictures of Hot Rod Sedans to keep you awake all night ....

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  29. Greenblade
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    Still looking for a title before I get to really working on this thing. Until then I'm doing things like this to keep me motivated 20230529_133903.jpg 20230529_133915.jpg (just soapstone for now)
     
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