Hot Rods 31 Model A Victoria Build w/Pics - Miss Vicky

Wow! Those garnish moldings look great! Nice work as usual Dave.

 

I definitely won't be using the same guy that cut the windshield. I'm going to get a quote from a local place here in Richmond that I've heard and read good things about. I honestly have no idea how much glass should cost. Anyone want to venture a guess?

Thanks man! The garnishes were super pitted when I started on them. BTW, that's just rattle can Rustoleum gloss black.

 

I woulda guessed the prices would be the other way around. Tempered requires another operation (the tempering after cutting) so it should cost more, right?

Laminated is perfectly fine for your side and rear window. It's been used since the 20's.

 

Wow, the garnish moldings look great!

My dad had new side glass cut for his '58 Caddy. They charged $20 each for the door glass and $10 each for the vent windows. It was a local place that unfortunately went out of business a few months ago.

 

I payed $40 (labor and material) for my wind shield. That was safety glass.
Not sure if tempered or laminated...

 

Windshields around here have to be laminated. Tempered is fine for everything else. You want that windshield to stay together if something hits it rather than bust into a gazzilion pieces!

 

Happy progress Dave.

Laminated glass, for your windshield won't shatter. Its supposed to stay together and remain in the hole
The tempered glass is hard but shatters into 47 million little squares. Its supposed to break apart and clear the hole.

Plate glass will break into lethal shards.

For me, laminated windshield & tempered everything else.
They used to use plate glass. To many folks died.

 

Dave, let me add my two cents to your glass questions. I worked at Pittsburgh Plate Glass for a number of years making the glass in question, the answer is: laminated glass for any or all of your windows. Tempered glass for side and back windows ONLY. tempered might be cheaper than laminated, but for your windshield use laminated glass. It's a safety issue, period. Also, once glass is tempered it cannot be cut, period. A good glass man can cut laminated glass. HTH

 

I'm still looking for a new glass shop, I'll need to get some cut for a chopped Shoebox one of these days

As soon as I heard the local place was closing I tired to buy there glass sander, they'd already sold it

 

Dave, Get yourself an I&I Chevrolet parts catalog, they are in California. I installed all the window trim in two 1939 Chevrolets and really liked the look of all the stuff. The U shaped channel with the stainless steel bead on the edge really sets off the glass. Bob

 

Dave, you may consider using laminated for all your windows, especially rolling windows. I found when I had glass cut, the radius corners are sanded to shape and once installed you may find you want to tweek that radius for true final fit. You may also find if you make your template pieces a real tight fit on the fixed pieces, they may need to be tweeked also. Not much room for clearance on a 32 Chevy rear or quarter window as there is very little sealing surface.

 

I have a local glass shop working up a quote for you on tempered glass, tinted and clear.

I think the laminated glass would be the right way to go as mentioned above. I have laminated in the '57 except for the rear which is tempered.

It appears that new cars have tempered side glass, but they are all curved. The flat laminated glass would be easier to cut to size.

Nice rattle can spray job. Looks professional.

 

That all looks really good buddy!!!

 

Dave, my glass was cut to patterns, but was still just slightly oversized. I had to take the rear glass back for sanding. Also note that on the side glass, too tight and glass will contact the screws retaining the glass run channel, too loose and the regulator will cock the glass into a bind. Fit has to be perfect. I guess a glass shop installing can sand to a perfect fit. My side windows were a tad narrow, and I had to slightly shim the glass run channel to get it it to run up & down smoothly.

If you haven't already, check out "Restoration Specialties & Supply" for belt weatherstrip. They have a good selection and I was pleased with the product.

 

Lookin' good man! And great to see the car as well as finally meet you in Winston Salem!

Curious to see what happens with the windows. Makes sense what others said on being able to sand the corners for the optimum fit.

 

I had it cut @ Clover Glass on Hull St. between Turner Rd. & Chippenham. They did good job, took a few days though.

 

I got a much better price on laminated glass – $115 for all five pieces! I'll be paying Able Glass a visit.

Mo, I realize you had a problem with them, but that's probably because you were having them chop a windshield. They should be able to cut flat glass just fine.

 

That's a little cheaper huh? Does that include the polish of the edges on the two that roll down???

 

Looks like you got a good price locally.

What I got:
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Tempered glass tinted or clear same price. Hop's Place in Hampton.

 

I got my glass cut and it really looks good. It's clear, laminated and it matches the patterns perfectly. I'm very happy for an investment of $115.




I got the fixed rear glass in today. I glued a rubber glass gasket to the glass to seal that seam, but I didn't seam seal it into the window opening. I want to be able to take it out when I paint the car shiny.

My club buddies will appreciate this:

 

Very cool, Dave!
You'll notice a big difference driving in the rain now

 

Represent!

 

Dave, looks good! Looking forward to seeing you do the door windows! Please take lots of pics of the door window stuff, if possible! Pretty please! With sugar on top! I still need to get the felt channel stuff worked out on mine (among a million other things).

 

All righty. Got my quarter windows in and operational.

First, I got the original regulators working. The regulators and wood are original from 1931. I painted the top inside edge black because it shows from the outside.






I bought felt channels from Snyder's, along with the channel piece that clips to the regulator and holds the glass. I had to cut down Tudor pieces because they're not available for Victorias.




I also bought some rubber glass bedding to hold the glass tightly in the channel. I sprayed the rubber down with glass cleaner and tapped it and the channel onto the glass with a rubber mallet.








Next, I screwed on the left side felt channel into the window opening.




I slipped the glass into that felt channel, slid the other felt channel onto the right side of the glass, and pushed the glass into position. I then moved the glass up to the closed position and screwed the lower part of the right felt channel in. Once the lower screws were installed, I lowered the glass and screwed in the upper screws.




Then the spring loaded thingy at the bottom of the regulator gets inserted into the slot in the metal channel that holds the glass.






Next, the wood that holds the regulator goes on.






After that, the garnish molding can be installed.




And here's a little video of the maiden voyage.

 

Sweet!

 

Great job

 

Awesome!

 

Very cool, Dave!
Now I know who to ask, when I need help doing mine...

 

Awesome Dave!! Great tech, there!

 

Yessir! You did indeed. I bought another set of wheels for the new WW's. The blackwalls will most likely go on the project after the next...