Better check that again - 10 Gauge Steel is .1345" to .1406" depending on who you believe and 11 gauge is .1196" to .125", so the difference is .0149" to .0156" ~ quite a bit different than .0010"
I've built one deuce frame complete with the dreaded reveal line. I'm glad I did NOT keep track of my hours. Here's a pic of my rotisierre jig....
ok.sorry. so thats a difference of .020 of an inch. can you tell me in fractions what that is. what is twenty thousandths of an inch converted to a fraction. do you think that is noticeable to the naked eye. how many guys are going to walk up to a frame with a micromiter or caliper and measure the thickness of it.
The difference is not .020" it is around .0150" as I listed and that is just under 1/64th of an inch. But I ask again, how are you going to do the reveal?
well enough chit chat. get out in the shop and take some pics! haha I am very interested in seeing the final product. I think the interest is there for what you are claiming to be making.
here is another question for you guys. would there be any benefits to having a frame ,like a 32, that the wheel base is stretched say 4-6 inches allowing the guys that would like to run big blocks a little more room for the engine and accessories. maybe they wouldn't have to stuff it so far into the car, freeing up a little more room inside. ( just an idea)
You might get away stretching a Deuce frame an inch, but anything more would start to look disproportionate when ***embled, especially 4-6 inches. Generally with a Deuce frame you don't need a whole lot more room for things anyway, but an extra inch might be nice. Don
I wouldn't stretch one unless it was special order. A 32 is like 3 inches longer than a Model A anyway.
posted 10 days ago!..how long does it take to make a 32 frame geezzzz.. (totally kidding,lets see some pics when you get done)
Don't stretch a 32 frame 4 to 6 inches. I will look horrible and would not sell. Sorry just being honest
I don't know why anyone is complaing? As far as i'm concerned the more car part makers the better. As long as it is quality work. Personally i probably want my 32 frame to look as close to the real deal as possible but it is always good to have options!
Dave Houston's Chevy bodied hot rod has a '32 Ford frame that was stretched 9 inches to a 115-inch wheelbase, for that engine-
I'm REALLY interested to see these pics. After all the wise advise from well respected builders with combined eons of experience, I'm skeptical that you'll prove them wrong. If you do, I'LL buy a ch***is for my A Sport Coupe that's 5 years away! Sent from my DROID device using the TJJ mobile app
True story. I make about 30 pair of Deuce rails per year, and of those maybe 6 or 7 are a 2" stretch. I have done exactly one with a 3" stretch. I have to make a profit, but a pair of boxed Deuce rails alone is more than $ 950 I can't wait to see what you come up with.
Gary at Blackboard has been welding up frames for over 10 years, don't even compare yourself to his experience. He uses three separate jigs and has perfected each one over the years. I would also like to know how you are going to stamp the correct reveal into a rail and compete with ASC ??? I can't wait to see the pics, and your final outcome on hours and pricing.
I dont think he is out to prove them wrong. The fact is, most of you guys have already thrown him under the bus, and all he has done is ask questions.
very true. thanks TR Waters. im not trying to compete with anyone. just want to build a few frames here and there. i built some what of a jig yesterday and 1 complete frame and started another. came back into the shop this morning to finish. i still have to make the rear cross member and add a few other things to them. these 2 are for me and my son. didnt put the reville in them just made smooth rails for now to see how it goes. having problems getting pics on. i have approx 12 hours in the jig and 1 1/2 ,frames i guess. (106" wheel base) (23 3/4" in fron) (40" at rear) im sure im going to get shot down pretty hard when the pics go on but i guess if no one likes them they can piss off instead maybe someone can give me there cell # and i will text the picks and you can post them for me. id like to get them on
I'm not throwing anyone under the bus at all, however many well respected builders have offered kind advise that was responded to by the OP with a certain at***ude. I went as far as saying I would buy one if they turned out correct. The OP has also said numerous times he's not interested in going into business, and he's not looking for a big profit from these. He's had to state and restate this numerous times. I applaud the thought and effort, but thinking of offering a 6" stretch suggests that he doesn't really understand the mysteries and beauty that IS a deuce. Many times he was asked how he would duplicate the reveal which he has avoided answering, and has now made the admission he's not doing it on the first two, further supporting my simple theory. No question about it, we can use more thinking outside the box. Without seeing the end result (yet) this seems to be TOO far out of the box for most of us. I have no intent of busting balls or throwing anyone under the bus, but this is sounding more geared toward the street rod crew. Sent from my DROID device using the TJJ mobile app
For the reville you ask. I am waiting for one of the guys at work to finish making it. Takes a little time for that kind of tooling to be made. Im sure a little trial and error to go with it to get it correct
looking great so far! keep up the good work. I know you have a plan for the reveal on the side and I am excited to see that but I think your frame looks great. Thanks for braving the storm and sharing your project and ideas with us.
Well, I must say you have a nice shop and I like the work I see so far. I also like the cross pieces that you have placed between the in and outer side pieces. I am more of the street rod type of guy so traditional is not as much of a concern to me but the beauty of a duece rail is the reveal. I will be in the market for a frame in the next year or so and will be watching this closely. If you can even come close to the reveal then I will surely be talking with you more in the future. Don't let anyone discorage you with your dreams and keep up the great work.
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