Hot Rods 32 Roadster vs Bicycle

I've owned a bike shop for over 30 years,and surprisingly agree with the posts about bikers total disregard for the rights of others.This is a regular topic of conversation in the shop,usually concerning some ***hole bike rider with an at***ude.The real problem is those bad apples make it so damn hard on the rest of the cyclists who DO try to use common sense,and share the road in a reasonable manner.I regularly watch a pace line run the stop sign outside the shop,and they don't give a **** if you've got the right of way,or not.Then the guy in the car gets rightfully pissed,and crowds the hell out of the next rider he comes up on,maybe you our riding with your kids..I don't know what the answer is,but I get pretty ****ing tired of cyclists who act like ***holes..I don't want some of my customers to cause trouble for the rest of the cycling community,but I can't get past some of the at***ude these *****s exhibit on the road..A local guy was killed a few years ago on his bike by a worthless ***** on her cellphone,in broad daylight,on a decent road.He wasn't doing anything wrong,but she killed him deader than hell..NO CHARGES FILED...And I had to wonder how many public officials have been in the position to see these arrogant ***hole flaunt the traffic laws,and somehow thought it must have been his fault,somehow..The only public outrage over his death was from his family,and cyclists...Sad to say,John Q Public thought it had to be his fault..Sorry for the rant,and wasting space with my post...

 

When I see old cars like stock model Ts going slow, I swerve honk and rev my engine to teach em a lesson. Those *******s should remember the road belongs to the rest of us.

Sounds really ****ty when you replace the slow moving vehicle with something you identify with, huh?

 

i wasn't going to respond anymore , but i have to say this. first , i'm not anti-bike. i just think that bikes and cars need to be separated.

if you think that is taking someones freedom away , think about what most consider the ultimate freedom...flying. you would never be allowed to land a small aircraft at Twin Cities International Airport. do you know why? small , slow aircraft like a J-3 Cub do not play well with 747's . the difference speeds , the amount of room they need , and turbulence causes major problems. the big jets use the big airports , small planes use the small airports. i actually landed at TC International in a Cherokee Arrow about 35 years ago....i was on base leg and a 747 was on final. scared the **** out of me , never again.

to me , the same principle applies to cars and bicycles ,

 

And the Amish in buggies! Those slow *******s! And snowplows! WTF? They are a danger with that sharp pokey blade, and they throw all of that snow in the air and blind us as we p***.

 

Another good ****ogy would be having yer heap break down on some narrow back road, and as your hoofing it down the shoulder into town to get help, the cars that p*** swerve at you, yell, honk, throw stuff at you, etc... just because they don't want you walking on the edge of the road. Not cool... deadly dangerous... totally unnecessary... but they do it anyway.

 

Would ya like to retract this after ya read the portion of the email that I posted.
Bicyclist are "*****'s who think they own the road.
Like ya don't take a knife to a gun fight !!!!

 

And none of us are claiming that cyclists should be allowed on the busy metropolitan interstates with all the semi's and traffic at 70mph.

 

So unless someone lives near a bike path, they should not be allowed to ride a bike?
How about semis and motorcycles? Should they be allowed on YOUR road?

And I landed a Cessna 172 at Portland international. Scary, but not illegal.

 

so , you are saying there ARE some rules about where bikes can and cannot go? i didn't know that....after reading all the posts, i thought bikes had the right to go anywhere. and i'm bad for suggesting some separation between bikes and cars

 

damn bicycles, stay on the bike path already!!

 

bikes?? Whatever happened to skateboarding??

 

*** Hat indeed. Oh well .. I don't try to crowd them or intimidate them.. but when I get my chance to p***.. they get an earfull. They break the law by riding in packs.. I guess I break the law with excessive noise. Life goes on.. I don't think they are bunched up for protection.. but who knows. I don't like the tone .. I regret responding to this thread.. it is about Hot Rods here.. Sorry if if my comments are offensive. Stay gold pony boy.. stay gold

 

That's a great way to get hit over the head with a crow bar. Ask me how I know....Luckely I'm faster on a bike than that fat ******* was on his feet....

In all seriousness I think the guys that get worked up about bikers not doing this or that are the ones that make it hard for bikers to ride in the first place. That bike lane is another lane of traffic. You wouldn't cut over a lane of traffic with out looking would you? I've seen it happen. And the lady paid for it with a nice dent in the side of her new mercedes and a ticket for failure to yield.

 

Not sure what the **** you are talking about. What part of the e-mail is in opposition to the words I wrote?
Sounds like an accident - AND sounds like your man was pretty cool about it. Not sure I would be as cool if someone lost control & smashed up my old car. I didn't doubt that the cyclist was at fault, just don't dig the comments about bikes not belonging on the road.

I don't think I own the road. I do think I have a right to use it - right along next to the people who would use their 3,000+ Lb vehicle to run my -20 Lb vehicle off of it because they don't think I should even be out there.

And if you think I'm a ***** because I ride a bike, I'd like the opportunity to disprove your theory.

 

spandex fight !

dam it`s hard enough to drive a car around today with people trying to run into ya every where you go
I wouldn't even think about riding a bike any more for fun
and I don`t like shaving my legs or spandex

I almost hit a ***hole on a bike yesterday big shop van going 60 mph
the guy not obeying the law turns around to go the other way and crosses right in front of me I almost killed him

almost ran over lance Armstrong and his groupies that dart out into traffic like there's no cars around them ? you do that in a car you hit the car next to you and it`s you fault

I feel bad for the 32

 

For the record I ride in baggie shorts and havent shaved my legs in eons (sorry Rashy and Root, I know how you like it)

 

AMEN!

Wow, that ****s. The cyclist is incredibly lucky. Looks like a repop grille. The owner and the insurance company would really be crying if that was a gennie.

I'm the only guy in the office that doesn't ride regularly. My boss got hit by a lady that pulled out in front of him, and he had the right of way. He hit her fender, and flew up on the windshield. He was pretty banged up. She got the ticket, and plenty of calls from my boss' insurance agent, I'm sure...

 

Here's a question for the road cyclists here. Where is the proper place for road bikes to go quickly. The bike paths are full of walkers and joggers. Not a good place to ride 20 mph or better. Roadies who ride the fog line on major highways are pretty scary to p***. Speed isn't an absolute, it's relative to its surroundings. Me? I've usually rode mountian bikes. Our issues are simular, but the potential conflict is with hikers and horses. Hauling *** down a single track on a mountian bike is major fun. But somehow we have to work sharing the space out in the best way to keep from donating too much blood to the ***** Goddess of Velocity. And paying tribute to the ***** Goddess of Velocity is where we should find common ground with all who love motion, speed and compe***ion.

 

to all you folks that convey full road rights to bikes....why are vehicles supposed to slow down to well below the posted speed limit while some rubber-covered rider takes his/her time on a thoroughfare? Many of them (and this town is FULL of recreational bike-riders) completely ignore stop signs...they don't even do a rolling slowdown - they take a quick look in both directions and off they go. Same thing with traffic lights - if it look 'ok' - they just run the light. I think that it has become so 'fashionable' to be PC about the environment and your health that politicians are reluctant to admit that a street with a 45mph speed limit is NOT the place for bicycles - I support everyone's right to enjoy exercising the way they prefer - riding, hiking, jogging, or just tipping your elbow at the local watering hole. But if it was a car weaving in and out of its lane and meandering along at 20 mph below the posted limit - then how wonderful would it be?

We need more bike lanes and less non-powered vehicles on the roads. On race tracks they don't stick the VWs out with the Modifieds...

The disparity of power, weight and speed should dictate that bikes are not to be ridden on any arterials or outside posted bike lanes.

There...I have vented...and I await the vitriolic diatribes with alacrity and glee.

dj

 

Damn it, Propwash, you've out big-worded me!

 

Zactly Phil. For some of us it is about all things Mechanical. Most of the guys that I ride MTB with keep bells on the bars to kindly warn hikers w/o scaring the **** outta them. On the other hand, all the years I commuted I carried a rechargable bike air horn........like they honk at a basketball game? Scared some tough looking drivers as they tried to cut me off over the years.............sounds like a freight train coming down on ya!

 

As I read thru this, it seems clear that the root of the disconnect here is perspective. As motorists, we've all seen cyclists do stupid stuff on the roads. However, as road cyclists, only a few of us here have seen the aggressive and dangerous things that motorists do which is aimed directly, deliberately, at cyclists.

Once you've experienced the latter, where law-abiding cyclists have cars swerve at them (you) at speed and/or stuff thrown at them (you), it's easier to be a little more patient with cyclists when driving the car, and a little less tolerant of jokes about what guys have done, or would like to do, to cyclists on the roads.

 

This is illegal, but it's done for safety. Know why?

If you stop at the light, the cars behind you try to p*** at the light/stop or in the intersection because they don't recognize you're another vehicle. By the time you're across the intersection, now you've been pushed out of your lane and are forced to re-merge several cars back, with cars that may not know you're there because of line of sight. There may not be a shoulder or there may be a curb on the other side that forces the bicycle back into the lane.

Personally I ride mountain bikes so when it's hairy.....just leave the road til things ease up. High speed curb hopping and pothole jumping is hugely safer (and more fun) than other options.

Did you know in many cities it's ILLEGAL to ride a bike on the sidewalk?? It was in my hometown even though not enforced.

I still can't imagine how F-d the biker would be that hit the deuce even if they walked away. I've hit a lot of non-cars, and man..that's a bad combination of stuff to ram.

Still feeling division between rodders and bikers? My bike's a home built hotrod. Backyard sprayed custom paint, fat tires, performance gears, etc. It's got parts from all over the country pulled together new and used then custom fitted to make exactly what I wanted. I use it to chase good times with friends, sometimes it's quiet zen time, and sometimes it's great for beer runs. That's a f-n hot rod.

For some of us, hot rodding isn't cuffs & grease. It's living a life a**** personally modified objects, seeking a thrill that the non-modified world can't understand. More than just cars.....surely some of you car-only guys can relate

 

spandex ***gets......................we have big issues here with em'....
they think they own everything. ****s to see that 32 get smashed, if it happened to me. oh man.........................

 

Now you are showing your lack of age. Hopefully time wisens you up.