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327 sbc what do you think?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by clockwork31, Feb 27, 2011.

  1. falcongeorge
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    That cam will be all done around 5500-6000. Like I said earlier, z/28 intake. Or a Edelbrock C3B or C3BX if you want something "period", with that cam it wont give up much if anything to the Z/28 intake. As far as that goes, if you are really stuck on the Car Craft theme, use the regular Performer RPM, it will perform the same as the Z/28 or air gap if you block the heat risers, and it has a boss you can drill for the oil fill tube. I dont know why you are so stuck on the air gap, your combo is so mild, I dont think the trade-off in part throttle fuel economy & harder starting would be worth the 5-10 hp you are going to pick up running a cold intake.
    You do know there are two different RPM's right? Your posts are using RPM and RPM Air-gap interchangeably, which makes me think maybe you dont.
     
  2. 26 roadster
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    they are talking not listening
     
  3. IRON MAIDEN
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    Yeah, I have an Edelbrock catalog. There's more than just two...
    I found another. The Performer EPS. Model 2703 It comes with the oil spout and breather. Idle to 5500 rpm. Can't find any reviews on it but they claim it is a step up from the normal performer intake. Anyone familiar with it?

    http://www.jegs.com/i/Edelbrock/350/2703/10002/-1?parentProductId=750760

    And again someone said I have a very mild built motor. Is it just the cam? Seems that being cams are pretty cheap now would be the time to change it if I should.
     
  4. falcongeorge
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    Well theres also my personal favorite, the quadrajet flanged RPM, but some guys find Q-jets a little intimidating to tune. If you want, PM me with some info on your car, auto or stick, , converter, power brakes, rear gear, approx. weight and heads. Its really a pretty typical street cam for what most guys are running nowadays, pretty similar to the old chevy 151, but with a little less duration & a 110 lda instead of 114. Why dont you try the cam out first? Keep in mind, when I say the cam is done by 5500-6000 rpm, I dont mean it wont rev any higher than that, I mean if you did a dyno pull, the power would start to fall off in that range.
     
  5. Deuces
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    I was just thinking how that eps intake would do with a 1" 4-hole spacer in between???......
     
  6. ClayPigeonKiller
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    Large journals are cast cranks--- good
    Small journals are forged cranks--- gooder

    change occured around 1968
     
  7. IRON MAIDEN
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    I'm off to work for the evening. I'll pm you asap. And to be honest, I'll be happy if I'm in the 300 - 320hp range all said and done. That and I want to sound healthy/cam'd.
    I know the heads I have a nice. Not the best out there by any stretch, but should be great for a driver. I'm just hoping that with block hugger headers and maybe some glass packs or nice sounding mufflers.... it sounds healthy and mean. It's going in a 46' International Harvester K3. Long wheelbase (132" -134") truck with an 8.5' bed. Jaguar XJ6 front and rear independant suspension. 700R4 trans. The Jag rear has 2.82's in it now as it's a series III. Going to swap some XJ12 gears in it. 3.55's/posi
     
  8. terryble
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    Is there just something about that general displacement that makes them good; Buick 322 @ 4x3.203, Olds 324 3.875x3.438, Caddy 331 3.8125x3.625 and Chevy 327 4x3.25? All have around a 4 inch bore and a shorter stroke and all are capable hot rod motors.
     
  9. IRON MAIDEN
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    I'm sure this is the last life of this block and crank. Maybe the second rebuild?
    Anything I should be concerned with with the block and crank?

    (Block was bored to .060” over with new TRW pop up pistons with molly rings.
    Crank was turned to .020”-.020” with new Clevite rod and main bearings)
     
  10. HEATHEN
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    There are still lots of '60s vintage Edelbrock C4B, C3B, and C3BX intakes out there in the $50-$75 range. I see them at swap meets quite often.
     
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  11. Had a mild 327 in my first car, a '69 Camaro. Never broke, reved to 6500 with hydraulic cams, and was plain fun. Beat many a 396/325 in a Saturday night street race.

    Steve
     
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  12. I've got a 327 with 1 carb and no nitrous that went 8.50 @ 160 MPH in a comp dragster. Nothing wrong with that, right?
     
  13. Docs_Rubb
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    Maiden, if you want something hot and rather stock in a cam, you might try Chevy part number 3863151, these are hyd cams that came in the L79 327 350hp motors, they have a 221/221 duration and a .447"/.447" lift
    or a little hotter and a tad more radical Chevy part number 3849346, these are mech cams that came in the 327 365hp and the 302 Z/28 motors, they have a 254/254 duration and a .485"/.458" lift, both using a 11.0:1 compression ratio
    I am running the first in my 327, it is pushing my '60 Bel Air to the point that I usually let up off it way before it tops out.....but am thinking about going to the bigger second just for squirts and giggles when I rebuild later this year.
     
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  14. deto
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    Really?
     
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  15. HEATHEN
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    That comment takes me back to the days of working the counter of an aftermarket parts store in the early '80s.

    "What size engine does it have?"
    "I dunno.....must be a 305. Doesn't look big enough to be a 350".
     
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  16. josh77
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    Some large journal 327's had forged cranks too. I've got one.....
     
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  17. falcongeorge
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    I have a steel large journal 327 crank here.
     
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  18. if you wanna screamer... get the 327!
     
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  19. onedge
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    They are the best 327'S. But I bitch about chevy threads here so I'm just chiming in out of respect after reading some of post. They do rock on the highest level. Yeah I said that...
     
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  20. woodienut
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    When I was on the counter Back in the 60's I'd ask if they had whitewalls when they wanted a air filter. Ahh, the good old days.
     
  21. woodienut
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    Or just run the 3.55's and a 350 turbo.
    and not TOO much compression, the price of 93 (if you can find it) is very close to $4.00 in SoCal right NOW!
     
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  22. 1934coupe
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    This manifold is as close as you can get to the chevy aluminum hi-rise. Every company comes out with a "gotta have 10 more hp" manifold but for a street hot rod motor I ain't found any thing noticably better than the C3B or stock chevy manifold. Plus the C3B's are cheap at swap meets.

    Pat
     
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  23. falcongeorge
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    Iron maiden, I will stick to the pms.
     
  24. SinisterCustom
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    Just saying "327" sounds badass......it rolls off the tongue like a sweet asian hooker....
     
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  25. falcongeorge
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    Sorta like "427". :D
     
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  26. MeanGene427
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    427 sounds better ;)
     
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  27. SinisterCustom
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    427 "feels" better.........
     
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  28. Docs_Rubb
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    Hey better yet, drop a 400 crank in it and call it a 427 small block, now thats a better feeler if'n there ever was one!!!!
     
  29. Deuces
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    I mentioned that before on another thread but nobody believed me..:rolleyes:
     
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  30. willowbilly3
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    Great engine. I'd take one over a 350 anyday. I prefer the small journal. They all had steel cranks and the bearing speed is a lot less (if that means anything) Plus, if you decide to get creative, you can drop a 283 crankshaft in the small journal.
     
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