I forgot you will also need paper templates of old panel or of a good panel. To make templates to make bucks
Looks like a great candidate for a reversed firewall. Drill some spot welds, turn it around and BOOM! Instant recessed firewall, complete with rolled beads. I like it! And they're a little bigger than a similar year ford although it looks a lot like a 32 ford sedan with suicide doors.
Today I sand blasted my frame. I have been looking all over the frame for serial numbers. They seem to be no were to be found. Well durn sand blasting I found it not were you would think . Found on top outside edge of frame rail 2 inches behind right cowl mount.
On my '29 Esex, IIRC, frame # is on driver side, top edge of frame, ~ 4-6" from rear shackle mount. Been awhile since I looked. A spare frame has its' # in same location. Wasn't sure iffen that one is an Essex or Hudson, but leaning towards Essex. The #-finding game sure can be interesting at times... . Also, would you mind, much, after you post pics of the tool(s) you used to set the metal, describing how you actually made the patch panels? I *think* I know, but would rather not guess. Yours do look pretty nice. This info is going to come in handy in the near future. TIA. Marcus...
No need to recess the fire wall. with body located where it should be on original mount and the stock grill shell located in the right place there is plenty of room. My friend has a 33 coupe with BBC chevy installed.
Sorry to anybody that has been waiting for me to post pics of the tools. I made to make panels I looked everywhere for them no were to be found. So give me some time to make up new ones. Then I will post more on them and panel making.
Here are some pics of frame clean and primed. The front cross member I'm not useing so did not waste sand on it. Now I some spots to fix and some boxing to do. When I get some more time.
I went looking for something in my shed did not find what I was looking for. But I did find the tools I made for shaping panels. Here are some pics of them. They are nothing special. I also used a pice of 5/8 round stock.
This is a good thread and it sure looks like you are doing a good job on the build. I like your made the tool or tooling to do the job way of doing things too.
Today I sand blasted the body and primed. I got most of it ran out of sand. I'm up to 1000 lbs of sand so far. I also got some parts today. I got a grill shell and windshield frame and latch. This has been a good day, but got to get some more sand finish blasting next weekend. Anyway here are some pics.
nice job. do yourself a favor and put a tarp down and save the sand. filter it through a piece of window screen. the sand will be finer the second time so you can throttle back the sand setting. the finer sand will actually work better cleaning the tin. i would do this using the new sand on the "heavy" metal and "insides" then use the finer on the outside and "delicate" areas.
Thanks for tip l'll put tarp down next round of sand. The grill shell is pretty good. Has some rust holes down around lower chin. Over all very usable. Originally the shell would have been chrome. The grill I think I'm going to make one out of small stainless round stock. Unless I happen on a usable original. I don't thinks that's going to happen,but you never know.
The roof insert is from a 85 volvo station wagon Swiss made car metal was a nice thickness. I put the front to the rear nice curves lined up nice. I did a lot of eyeballing of car roofs before I made a choice. Did not want to go too new metal is thin. I cut the peice and layed it on top of roof to look at before. I did any final decisions on cutting down and where to cut.
You're doing a great job so far. That's a real bummer you have to pack it up for the Winter. It would kill most of us to have to hang it up for 4-5 months. Do you have a shed you can heat and work in (or a friend/relative with garage) and maybe build an engine over the Winter? Or a room in the house you can do some clean work sub assy's? If you get a dashboard painted, you could mount gauges, etc., or front axle/suspension components painted, you could assemble that and have it ready for Spring.
Thanks I have a garage planed I'm having the site work and spot for garage being done before winter. Slab and shell next summer I'm putting up a 26x32 garage. I own almost all equipment needed to set up a shop lift,lathe,drill press welder. The list goes on and on. Not all will stop l have a very good friend that is one house up from me. I can use his garage to work on my doors they need lots of work and other small stuff. I just can't build my car there he uses it him self.
Here we go I found some time today to hammer out a panel. The second pics is metal screwed on one side of buck. I also used a paper template lined it up on both sides of opening. Then traced/coped lines with marker. This let's you know we're to hammer. I started with the round tip one first to start working it down. Near the lines working out to middle. The side not screwed down will start to tip up I just hold it down with my foot. Here are some pics View attachment 3001111 View attachment 3001111
When you got it worked down near where you want it. You can screw other side down. Useing the rounded tip punch I worked at a angle towards the in set of buck. The top edge were the screws are will hump up a little. Tap along top edge to keep edge flat. Too crisp up lines at top of panel I used a big chunk of round metal. Layed panel on it at edge. Tapping along length of panel on top.
Here are some more pics of panel being shaped. Bottom pics is only after some shaping to see what it looks like.
Here are some more pics. The bottom pic i trimed up the panel and bent the edge over. With a set of pliers. Had to make some cuts because of curve of panel. Top pics is of panel and all tools used. How good you need it depends on how much time you want to spend. Little body filler dose wonders. If you have any questions please ask.
Nice looks better shape than mine. Also here is another pic of panel. The curved punch. I put the panel on a heavy pice of plate steel and worked out the round tip punch marks.
That panel looks pretty good to me. How did you handle that small vertical bead on the front edge of the cowl ? Most of that small beading was cut off with the panel on mine before I got the body.