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Hot Rods 332 crank in a y block?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Boden, Jan 27, 2021.

  1. Boden
    Joined: Oct 10, 2018
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    Boden

    Is it possible to fit a Edsel 332 crankshaft in a 292 y block? 332 has a 3.6” stroke opposed to a 3.3” 292 stroke. I’m aware this will make for a weird rod,piston combo. But I found a crank for cheap. I do know of a 312 crank near me that I could buy and cut the mains down and slap it in a 292. What’s the better route to go? Obviously the 3.6” stroke is cooler and preferable. I do understand this may take some cutting and re fitting.


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  2. fabricator john
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    tim mcmaster hanford auto supply yblock.com hes been 200 with one thats what he does yblockguy on instagram he can help you with all you need . hes a machinist and engine builder ..
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  3. miker98038
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    I haven't seen that done, which doesn't mean it can't be. But I've got a 312 crank in a 40 over 312 block. Crank had never been turned, 2" rod bearings, 340 cid. I don't remember the exact stroke, but I had to clearance the rods to the cam lobes. So much over 3.75 (or so) gets complicated.

    Is the bore spacing the same on the FE, otherwise, probably better to check out the 312 crank. Unless it's been turned over 10 on the mains that might be simpler in the long run. I've also got a 312 crank with less offset grinding (and 2.1" mains) in a 40 over 292 for 320. Didn't push the bore due to the sonic check and the fact it was a blower motor. The 292 mains are the better size.
     
  4. FrozenMerc
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    An FE 332 has a stroke of 3.30", not 3.6".
    A Lincoln Y-Block 332 has a stroke of 3.65625" (3 21/32" Got to love fractional dimensions.....)

    Only the FE was used in Edsel cars. The Lincoln Y 332 was only used in big trucks, F600 and larger.

    The bore spacing of the FE and Lincoln Y-Blocks are really similar at 4.630" and 4.625" respectively. That is quite a bit larger than the Ford (292) Y-Blocks bore spacing of 4.38" (Same as the Windsor V8's, a 351W crank - 3.5" stroke - may be a better option by that logic). I think it would be quite difficult (nay - impossible) to make either a FE or Lincoln Y crank work in the Ford Y. Much cheaper in the long run to weld up and offset grind a 312 crank, and probably cheaper to machine a billet stroker crank than to adapt a FE or Lincoln Y crank.

    I believe a 3.64" stroke is about the largest you can go on a Ford Y before camshaft to rod bolt clearances become a problem.
     
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  5. The FE bore spacing is larger, so no crank swap there...

    The flathead and Y-block share the same 4.38" spacing, the FE is 4.63". The Windsor and Cleveland do share the same spacing with the Y-block however...
     
  6. seb fontana
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    Way back they [like Gapp&Rouch] were putting 292 forged cranks in the W engines [$1000.00] main rework I think was rear seal area and flywheel flange.. I don't remember the stroke they ended up with or the cubes, they also were also boring the blocks out and brazing sleeves in for bigger bores. A search may bring up magazine article or two, a guy on U tube [Dragboss ] may know lots.
     
  7. miker98038
    Joined: Jan 24, 2011
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    IIRC, only 292 (and not all) truck motors have forged cranks. They're pricey because you can weld and stroke them. I don't know if any 312 cranks were forged, and I don't know about welding and stroking cast cranks. I think Ted Eaton and the other big time y block builders use custom billet cranks in the real high horsepower Y blocks.

    Take a set of mic's and go check out the 312 crank. But make sure it passes a mag check. I bought a running 312 that had a crack in it. Still looked and sounded fine.
     

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