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Projects '34 Ford Hood Open/Closed

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Born 2 Loose, Sep 22, 2016.

  1. falcongeorge
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    Yup. My dads had these kind of "push pin" deals with round chrome knobs about the size of a quarter. A little gaudy for a traditional hot rod IMO, but I bet a lot of guys would want to use them. I'll see if I can find a pic online.

    EDIT: They are springloaded, You push them downwards, and they pop out to unlatch. A guy could check with british sports car resto places, re-pops are probably available.
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  2. You mean like this one?

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    Damn your pic showed up in my post while I was typing. That's like really twilite zone.
     
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  3. DDDenny
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    Give up?
    Hint

    full-bore-dzus-super-button-key_1_a2f21d949c33cc756b9e00feb6fdac54.jpg

     
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  4. falcongeorge
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  5. Roy Fijstad of The Deuce Factory used to make those.
     
  6. slinginrods
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    Oh boy this picture will get all the " period correct" guys goin. I can't believe it turned into another what's " correct" thread. He just wanted some ideas on how to keep his hood tops secure. And lo and behold here comes all the opinions on what he should do . Or what's correct. To the op , build your car your way. Unless the preachers are financing and putting in the labor for free . Just because it's not in a magazine doesn't mean it wasn't done.
     
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  7. F&J
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    There is an underlying hatred of the period correct members on Hamb, and that's odd, because that is what the site was created for.
     
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  8. alchemy
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    Build them old til I'm cold!
     
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  9. falcongeorge
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    Actually no one told him or you what to do, build a rat rod for all the rest of us care. Seriously, I for one do not give even one iota of a **** as to WHAT kinda steam-punk, rat rod ugly hunk of happy horse**** people want to sling together. Its none of my business, and it cuts the time I spend at car shows, because I can just walk on by 90% of the **** there.
    The OP asked how to hold to hood tops down with no side panels, he got answers. If people talking about how old hot rods were built offends your highly refined sensibilities, find a street rod forum.
     
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  10. falcongeorge
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    And Bandit, your non-period correct, steampunk ******* gear limeworks hood straps;):D wont stop me from looking at your car, cause I know theres lots of other cool **** on it.
    It just really gets my goat when these guys start telling us we cant talk about whats period-correct on a traditional hot rod forum because when they read it, it makes their nuts shrink up into their abdomen.
    I read tons of stuff on this forum that strikes me as stupid, hell, I see tons of entire threads that I decide I aint even gonna OPEN just based on the ***le. What I don't do, is whine like a school girl and tell people they cant talk about that, because it hurts my feelings and makes me feel inadequate...
     
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  11. slinginrods
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    yeah ok ,so sensitive , i didn't build a rat rod or a streetrod , but im not gonna lose any sleep over some cork sniffer who looks down on my car because it doesn't have 1940s era bolts or whatever ridiculousness they deem acceptable. just to be sure i looked back at the responses and you offered nothing but criticism. by the way when i don't run my hood sides i use the bungees from the bottom from side to side
     
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  12. F&J
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  13. F&J
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    There's the underlying hatred again, and you cannot deny it.

    .
     
  14. falcongeorge
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    Sensitive like a little school girl AND illiterate, what a combination. See post #31...
    If you check his profile, one of his previous threads is asking why his triangulated four bar pulls the left. So I guess he comes with "baggage".
     
  15. Bandit Billy
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    Back to the OP's query, I was faced with the same issue of having a hood top only but needing to secure it. There are some modern hinge and hold down ideas out there on Rootliebs site. Here is one that is pretty cool;
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    Pros: the hood is secured when it is down and it hinges open from either side for service or show. Very well engineered. Includes hood prop rods. Tired and tested.
    Cons: It doesn't look good. Visible when closed (barely), not attractive when open. Kinda street roddish. Maybe it could be done with lightening holes and riveted gussets or something to make it a bit more hot rod. The jury is still out but I sure would like to hinge my hood at some point rather than lift it off.

    I considered barrel spring latches (like the gate latch idea but because they are spring loaded they wouldn't chatter or vibrate open on the freeway. Something like this
    upload_2016-9-28_12-55-23.png

    Its got a antique vibe going on, Haven't seen anyone do it so it be cool.

    Guys have been holding the tops down for years on both sides of the pond with whatever they could find lying around. I went with the leather spring straps cause I think they look cool, have a vintage "thing" going on and I am incorporating the same idea on my roadster's door pockets and trunk area.

    Bandit Billy's Top Ten Rules of Car Building, in no particular order:

    1. Make it cool,
    2. Make it reliable,
    3. Make it safe,
    4. Make it your own, (your car, you call),
    5. Maker's Mark (I find creative juices flow better when served over ice)
    6. Make it fast,
    7. Make it yourself, (some ***embly required)
    8. Make mistakes, (some of the best ideas were the result of failure),
    9. Make waves, (it's your beat, march to it)
    10. Make up the last one, I ran out of material.
     
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  16. DDDenny
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    10. Shake your "Money Maker":eek:
     
  17. slinginrods
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    i,ve been stalked by a canook! I don't hate anybody, hell I love traditional cars ,just not the ones who feel that's the only thing that's right.
     
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  18. F&J
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    Missed the point again,
    The at***ude that there is something terribly wrong with us for expecting it to be OK talking traditional on the only traditional site outhere.,


    You guys are the outsiders, not us...get that figured out
     
  19. F&J
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    Maybe this will sink in with the hamb readers:

    Lets say there is a car metalshaping website out there that was created for members to learn and show their own metal formed fenders doors etc.

    Then more people keep posting showing their fenders made of hand laid fibergl*** and everytime a metal guy says that's not what this site caters to, they bash the metal worker for not "accepting anything else"

    and the gl*** guys will come up with fairy tales on why gl*** is just as proper on the site, as steel forming is.

    Before you know it, if noboby calls them out, the whole site gets to be about gl*** forming, not metal.
    Then the metal guys go elsewhere.

    .deal with that concept.
     
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  20. hotroddon
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    yeah, they were used on racers in the 30's and 40's. Might not have been real popular with the street crowd, but my Dad did say, when I was putting them on my 34 Coupe -"We did that on my 33 Chevy Coupe in 1948" hood strap 2.jpg
    hood straps 2.jpg
    This one even has the now in vogue springs

    Hood strap.jpg
    Little shorty versions

    Hood straps.jpg
    And even as early as 1906 Hood straps 1.jpg
     
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  21. F&J
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    Yes those cars have cloth or leather straps...but not those awful abortion crisscross lever latching DISTRACTIONS,

    The old race cars were trying to keep the hood on, not make a stunning fashion statement at a gay bar

    and add some big huge outdated bulb 32 headlights mounted way down low on the ground too,....just like the serious Bonneville cars ran in the later 50s, when looking for nightcrawlers to go fishing in the dry lake.
     
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  22. tb33anda3rd
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    when i started looking at hot rods [70's] most of the hood tops were screwed and or bolted. simple round head bolts or screws. the "fancy" guys had allen ****on heads;)
     
  23. falcongeorge
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    Maybe we should start a closed social group so we can talk about period hot rods on a traditional hot rod forum...:rolleyes::D
     
  24. Bandit Billy
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    Ah my brotha from anotha couva. I could not agree more. personal opinions are fleeting, hot rods are eternal.
     
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  25. F&J
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    I thought that last night. But it's silly to get chased off of a so-called "spreading the gospel of traditional" site and hide from the clown car Y2K group that have infested the site.

    We know Ryan tried some years back to split the groups with a "trad styled section" to cover newer ideas/trends. The crybaby guys that never build anything and just come to read, wanted everything back into one page like the current main board does. that's so they did not have to read several totally separate forums like the Ford Barn has. On Ford Barn, if you only want to read Model T, you go there, and there is no "clust-r-fk" of a combined forum to get it all in one click.


    But why redesign the site again now, only because one large group of Y2K guys don't get the rules, or don't want to give respect to the old ways. It's been said plenty here, that there are many other sites that cater to street rod and Y2K stuff...there is only one trad site :(

    George, I honestly think the Kulture sites would warmly welcome us more that the typical "vocal" member on here does. No humor intended..
     
  26. adam401
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    I pieced together a hood for my coupe out of a junk 36 hood, a gmc hood and some aftermarket sides. I plan to run it with open sides sometimes.
    When the sides are on I've got model a spring loaded latches to fasten it and I think when it's without the sides I'm gonna run belts to the hood top that connect to the hinge where the sides should be and have a ring to catch the latches.
    If that doesn't work well I'm gonna bolt it in place with slotted screws and call it a day. My cars kinda crude so no need for anything too fancy.
     
  27. RICH B
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    These go back a few years, on the silver car I used a couple of hardware store springs hooked onto cotter pins in the hinge rod tubes on the top and screw head on the bottom, the primer sedan had a screw on the rear and piece of hay wire on the front, eventually replaced with a three piece hood and Dzus ****ons. Last summer we again used some hardware store springs and hooks on a "A" sedan for my friend's son (he was an unbeliever on the bungee cord method).
    10914711_10205535963868251_6617989557543818648_o.jpg sedan 2 (Small).jpeg a.jpg
     
  28. falcongeorge
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    Yes, I was being 60/40% humourous/serious. It is ironic though.
     
  29. What? And miss all this good natured HAMB banter?[emoji12]


    Sent from my iPhone using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
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  30. Elrod
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    I'm using an almost identical set up. Latch hooks behind the grill shell on front, and the lip of the firewall on the back

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