Hot Rods 35 to 40 x member in an Av8

i have a hankerin to use this v8 cross member in my 27 T on an A frame. I know its been done since the beginning of time, read lots of old posts here, and yet i don't see anyone mention that they are not flat due to the swoopy frame in those years. It can be pie cut to flatten it easy enough, but then also need to taper down from 5 1/4" to 4" frame rail. The end result hopefully would use the stock pedal location, or if not, it seems it is starting to be more effort than starting from scratch. Any one done it with a T roadster body? I hate to cut this up, and then not use it. Note on my table, the ends are about 2-3" higher than the middle.

 

I think its a bit heavy for a T body on an A frame. For the work you will put in to it to thin it down you would be ahead to start with narrower tubing,and make one up.

 

thanks for the input. i was hoping to get a pedal location for free, but chances are slim it would all work out and you really wouldnt know until it was cut up to the point of not being usable in a 32 frame for example

 

thats a bad picture, the thing is out in the snow now, i will bring it in next week. but again, i am confused that all the old info i read, know one ever talks about the fact that the thing is not flat, quite far from it actually. 37-38 frame i believe, cable brakes. not heavy really, just wonder if the pedal and trans mount are a freebe, or not?

 

Dagel's offers an "x" member kit that fits an "A" frame. Or you can shorten and narrow the 35-40 frame to fit your "A".

 

I used 39 pedals in the A I'm building. There was an article in an old American Rodder that had patterns for a bracket for them that I used. Sorry I don't recall which issue though. My point is it's pretty easy to use those pedals, even if you don't use the X member.

 

This may be sorta what your looking for. It's not a lot of work to make it fit the A rails. I bolted in the 39 pedal unit, no problem. To get location right I got it to the point of everything in place prior to welding it to the Rails. Sat my body on over everything then slid the X member so that my pedals were in the right place in the Toe Board. I also took a vertical cut right behind the center section to raise it up and loose some of the arc built into that section to help with several things. Then I had to modify the saddle to give the T.T. clearance. Other than Time it's a walk in the Park.
P.S. I have posted these photos at least 20 times over the years. I'm surprised no one seems to find them using the Search menu.

 

thanks for the responses. Mr pist n broke, yes i have seen your pics many times in all the threads i find searching. nice job for sure. you mention you cut the rear legs to flatten out the curve, not the front too to keep the center section all flat and inline? and also, surprised that the torque tube tunnel needed mods, as thats another reason to go with the idea in the first place, that is, you get pedal mounts, trans mounts, and tube tunnel if all locations can be used as is

 

I wanted the Top of the X legs parallel to the top of the Model A rails. This created some interference, I cured that. If you've read or seen much of my stuff than you know I have a disclaimer in that "I don't think like Normal people". I don't buy Kits and I can't follow Instructions so I tend to just do things that work for what I need. So far So good. I also won't have an Oil Pan hanging below the I Beam, That was part of why I raised the center of X member. I also had a specific place I wanted my Exhaust to be when done being my Channeled Roadster will also be full fendered. It ended up being a big Math issue to work through. I think I got there. The Jury is still out.

 

Just to be clear I did not cut the rear legs off. I took a cut out of the bottom flange and sliced up to the bottom of the top flange. If you look close right behind the center saddle where it's flange is on the bottom flange you will notice a line into the center of the first big hole. That's where I raised the center up and welded it back together. This is in the Bottom photo of the three I posted. It's really not as confusing as it may sound. Hope this helps ya.

 

I put a 39 X in my 29 frame. It was a ton of work, but the 29 frame is very stiff now. I don't think I would do it again though. I'd probably go the F1 route.