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'37 LaSalle trans mount

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by c322348, Jul 29, 2012.

  1. c322348
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    Anyone know where to get one? Have a picture of one? Have one I can borrow to use as a pattern?

    Kanter doesn't have them for a '37 and I'm out of ideas!

    Thanks!
     
  2. F&J
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    Hurst made a bracket that fit at the studs to hold the tail housing on. Never saw one but I would think it bolted to a common type biscuit. Is that too far forward? I guess it would be, if you still have that super long tailshaft.

    If this is not an original car, can't you just go off the original mount bolt pattern, with a plate, to use a GM trans mount?



    If you can't build one, I think I have the parts here to do so.
     
  3. c322348
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    I'm trying to locate the front engine mounts but can't until I get the rear location bolted down. This is for a custom car I'm trying to restore, so I'd rather have the engine where it was than guess. It will save a lot of problems later if I can get it right the first time.
     
  4. 36 ROKIT
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    I have the old Hurst mount on my '40 trans. As I recall, its the same; will get some pics
    up when I get back to town tomorrow.
     
  5. c322348
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    That would be awesome. If you could take some measurements too, I would really appreciate it!
     
  6. 36 ROKIT
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    Here are some pics to get you started. It's a straightforward mount made out of aluminum and utilizes a GM rubber mt. Can get some measurements tomorrow. (I will likely be selling this setup in the near future.)
     

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  7. c322348
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    Unfortunately that won't work for me. I need the original factory LaSalle part.

    Thanks though, looks like a good setup.
     
  8. 36 ROKIT
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    Be more specific in your requests for info. This is a hot-rod forum, not a restorer's
    resource.....

    As for the stock mount, I have seen them on occasion on E-Bay, sometimes w/ cross-
    member. '37-54 Cad and LaSalle are similar.......
     
  9. c322348
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    Sorry if my request doesn't meet your strict criteria. I'm restoring a 1955 vintage hot rod BTW which has a '53 Caddy engine and a '37 LaSalle trans mounted in a highly modified Ford frame. I'm trying to make sure the engine is mounted in the right place. It had been modified to use a SBC so I'm trying to undo that conversion. If that isn't HAMB friendly, I guess I am in the wrong place.
     
  10. F&J
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    I am into old builds, but I am wondering why not adapt to the LaS rear mount pad. The bolt holes run front to back, quite far apart, which would allow using a random rear rubber trans mount from something else.

    Looks wicked easy to do with a simple flat plate.
     
  11. Ebbsspeed
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    I have a 37 LaSalle trans in the shop, but alas, no mount. Do you know if the hot rod you're "restoring" originally used a stock LaSalle trans mount? Since it sounds like you are needing to make the front mounts, why don't you position the engine where you want it, rather than guessing where it might have been originally. Then you can build the rear mount as well. Chances are you'll be within an inch of where it was back in '55 anyway.
     
  12. c322348
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    That's what I don't know! If I can measure one I'll know if everything lines up. Right now the trans doesn't sit flat on the crossmember so I know it had something there that had some thickness to it. There are 4 holes in the crossmember and I don't know which ones were used (or maybe all 4).

    The engine compartment is pretty tight, so knowing where it was will avoid any unexpected clearance issues (height as well as fore and aft).

    Maybe I'm too ****, but i figure that if this is a restoration I should either get the right parts or duplicate them as best I can. Some of this is like CSI for me.
     
  13. c322348
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    It seems like the bolt holes don't just line up straight through to the trans mount. The front mounts are stock 53 Caddy so there is some flex there. I figure the rear will need to flex as well so the tailshaft doesn't break off. I guess I can make something if I need to, but it would be much easier to just find the right part to start with. :)
     
  14. F&J
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    Ok, that's info we did not have. I'll bet most of us just figured the sbc swap took out all the old crossmembers and mounts.

    Back to an original mount for 37; if there are no repros made, then even a mint looking used one, or NOS will probably break due to the age of the rubber, but I guess you could get a measure off of one.

    Gamble a ph call? Call N.B.Pease & Co, Palmer M***. Closed wednesdays though :( He has NOS NORS stuff, been at it over 50 years. It's a long shot, but it's all I got.
    He is open M,Tue,Thur, Fri, and till noon on Sat. Get his number online google search, I don't want to post it here for the internet robots to get.
     
  15. Paul
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    are they like rare or something?
    must be worth a lot if they are..

    found this one in my junk pile,
    you just want dimensions or what?

    [​IMG]
     
  16. c322348
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    Cool! Thanks, I'll do that on Thursday.
     
  17. F&J
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    Ha, I've never seen one, but have the tail housing here. I was trying to suggest a flat plate with a 58=up Chevy trans mount, which would end up looking pretty close to that.

    That's why I mentioned the bolt holes were fore/aft and far apart, so there would be plently of room for a transverse mounted chevy one, on a flat plate.
     
  18. c322348
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    I suspect that is not a '37 tailshaft. My mounts on the tailshaft are transverse not longitudinal. There is a cast in boss that is perpendicular to the driveshaft.

    From the parts I have it looks like the bolts to the trans and to the crossmember are both transverse.

    Look here and you can just see the rear trans mount:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/album.php?albumid=26850&pictureid=300423

    That photo is from about 1955.
     
  19. F&J
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    Looks like mine that I took off of a 37. There are different tailhousings through the years, for Cad/LaS, and different lengths.

    Can you measure yours and put it up?





    That rings a bell for maybe later Caddy, I think
     
  20. Paul
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    pretty sure that tail came off the '37 I converted to Ford closed drive

    I'll dig deeper in the pile...

    edit: just checked my '37-'38 shop manual and it shows the perpendicular mount in one picture
     
  21. Paul
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    yup,
    I was mistook

    didn't find the '37 housing but I did find this old snapshot of the transmission before the swap,
    no mount attached in the picture so I probably don't have one..
    sorry

    [​IMG]
     
  22. c322348
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    Yeah, that is the exact trans I have!
     
  23. ROADSTER1927
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    Sorry no mounts on any of mine either, Gary
     
  24. c322348
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    I spoke to the nice gentleman at Pease. He said that nothing has been made in the aftermarket for the '37 trans and he doesn't know anyone that has them NOS. He also said that I could get one re-vulcanized if I could find a core, so that's what I'm after, unless I decide to fabricate something once I get some good dimensions.

     
  25. snot275
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    weird... I have a Lasalle 37 top loader but my mounts are inline with the drive shaft. actually, its just a raised boss with two bolt holes... Does this mean that at some point the long shaft was switched out with another ******?
     
  26. c322348
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    Does your trans have the long tailshaft? I think the long ones came with that style.
     
  27. snot275
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    Yeah, its the long style. So I guess I'm alright *phew*.... Any idea what vehicles the long ones came in (just out of curiosity)?
     

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