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39-48 brakes on F1 spindles? can it be done?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by redbeard, Nov 13, 2006.

  1. redbeard
    Joined: Nov 18, 2002
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    I know most people are going the other way with this( putting the F1 and F100 brakes on early spindles).

    But my budy has some F1 spindles and he has 40 ford brakes, and he asked
    me if they would fit.

    I told him I honestly don't know. I told him he should probably just use the F1 brakes.

    But I figured I would ask here

    and I did search for the last 45 minutes with no luck.

    so hopefully someone has the answer.

    thanks
     
  2. BELLM
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    Someone could probably figure out a bearing switch and make it work but why take a step backwards when the F-1 brakes are much better than the early brakes.
     
  3. j ripper
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    from napa ca.

    i dont know. hi dave...
     
  4. redbeard
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    I understand most people think the F1 brakes are better, but if you
    already have the parts for the 40's brakes, he just wants to know if they
    will work.

    thanks
     
  5. SinisterCustom
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    Doesn't Speedway have a kit or something??? I think it's just a bearing swap.
     
  6. Crankhole
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    The Speedway kit is for puting F1's on 40 spindles. Not what he's looking for.
     
  7. Rusty
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    The latest Old School Rods has all the bearing numbers. It has been discussed here quite abit. I will get thos numbers tonight for you. It is a direct swap.

    Rusty
     
  8. j ripper
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    from napa ca.

    im sure redbeard has that issue already. he was just telling how much he loves that magazine...
     
  9. Johnny Sparkle
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    Don't the F1 spindles have a different angle than the passenger car spindles? What axle is he using? If he is using a car axle, he probably can't use them anyway.
     
  10. redbeard
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    you guys must not be reading the post

    I know all about putting F1 brakes on early 40's spindles
    hell I even know about F100 brakes on 40's spindles

    but that is not what I am asking about.

    and jripper, I though I lent you that copy to seperate the seeds for rolling the j.

    I have not bought one of those fine magazines yet,
    sounds like they may have some good info, if you want to learn jive talk.
     
  11. Rusty
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    oops, you want to go the other way, Sorry.
     
  12. BELLM
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    The F-1 to '40 etc only involves bearings & seals & a little grinding so I assume the '40brake to F-1 spindle would also only need bearings & seals.. If you get bearings & seals for both, or at least parts numbers, get good really measurements off the bearings or the hub & spindle, or get sizes from parts catalog,, a good parts store or bearing supply could probably come up with what he needs, assuming you could find a good counterman who would be willing to spend the time to find what he needs.
     
  13. tdoty
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    Not the subject of this thread, but be aware they got the NAPA # of the inner race wrong - it's BR14276, not 1426.

    Might take some checking to put the early brakes on the F-1 spindles. The inner bearing used to put the F-1 brakes on early spindles is a transfer case bearing!

    Tim D.
     
  14. tdoty
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    Everything I can find says that the outers are, indeed, the same. Always a good idea to replace them though.

    All of the measurements I can find for the F-1 spindles are the same as my F-3 spindles.

    Dumb question, how do you tell the self-energizing brakes from the non? Guess I could read and figure it out. I'm going to go as far as to guess my 13" F-3 brakes are Lockheed non-self energizing models.

    Man, once you get past the "good $tuff", there is so much to choose from and it gets tough to piece it all together. I just bought a set of '40s front backing plates, so I may not use the F-3 brakes - this time around - but, then again, they are big and an 8 bolt to wide 5 adaptor shouldn't be tough to make. But, I bought wide 5 drums along with those backing plates ..................... Decisions, decisions ...........

    Tim D.
     

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