Hot Rods 402 CU IN Flathead

This might just be me, but this is so weird, and a little stupid, so someone has to try it out!

Might belong on my odd Ball thread, but it aint never gonna be cool!!!!

 

No, sorry benno, I was thinking why change a windsor into a flathead???What a long strange trip its been...

 

I'm sure glad I'm sticking to the cheap early hemi stuff!

 

Where, by the way, do you find this?

 

That is a true hot rodder at heart doing what hot rodders do and 30k isnt bad for a eliete hi end engine for the folk who want/demand the absolute best. Jmo

P/S
CHEAP AND EARLY HEMI DONT GO TOGETHER, THE BEST ALWAYS COST PREMIUM PRICES EVEN IF YOU CUT CORNERS, JUST BEARINGS AND GSKET SETS ALONE ARE EXPENSIVE.

 

That was mostly sarcasm but... while you can find some reasonable core engines, building them isn't cheap.

I've bought 6 354's and the most I've given for one to date is $240. They weren't rusted up junk either. Someone's looking out for me! I try to pay it forward and have helped a number of friends with parts, including giving a running Dodge 270 away (only cost me $100) and selling one of the 354's pretty cheap to an Australian hot rodder.

Fore those of you who don't know me I'm running a blown 354 in my 31 Pontiac and have another much more extreme one in my Dragmaster digger. I know what it costs to build them.

That all said you can build a pretty wicked hemi for $12,000.

 

True hot rodders make stuff go faster. Not slower. Or, at least, thats how it used to be...

 

They should call it the NUDRA.

Get it?

Rich

 

Well, I got it.

 

Well to me it ain't what Henry made.....even so I do appriciate the effort but it ain't for me, just because ya can don't mean ya should ..... just gimme Henrys true Flathead with all its problems and let me sort them out............. Now if you took Henrys 32-53 Flathead Block and made 402 cubes out of it, now there we go.................three mains and all.....

 

If you consider the R&D and parts manufacture, I think the kit price is fair. I also think it's at a price point that prices itself out of any realistic market.

I think it's very ingenious. I doubt we'll ever see more than a handful...

I don't get the bashing, but I don't get a lot of the bashing that goes on over perceived 'correctness' - that's just me. I do get the fact that it's not an original. I do get the fact it's expensive. I do get the fact it's going backwards technologically, but how is this different than that brand new all-aluminum flathead motor-city flatheads dudes have been working on for years?

 

Exactly. For that matter how is this regressive technology any different from the way we spend time and money on any old car?

 

Ernie,
You see guys in the magazines all the time that drop that much coin on an engine. The builder has a very small window of opportunity I think.

I think that if I had that kind of cash to drop on an engine I would be about getting one of those repop ardun engines. But that is just me.

 

If i were to spend a bunch of money on a crate motor i would rather have a new Shafiroff all aluminum w motor,but until i hit the lottery that will be my only shot at it.

 

I won't fault the guy for doing something new and innovative, and I can't even imagine how many hours of development he's put into this to make this a reality! He had a dream and went for it... COOL!

Technically it IS a flathead, but using a valve-in-head block. So is it a flathead?

Not my thing, and I can't imagine how "rough" in kit form it must be to justify an additional $18,000 of machine work and assembly. I'd go with an Ardun on a French block first, then save up for a S.C.o.T. blower, but that's me. I thought one of the key features of this was that it was assembled from "readily available and reasonably priced OEM parts". That's not what I see with a $30,000 price tag. Must be some kryptonite in there or something!

I'd love to see some REAL world numbers on it and some unbiased reviews on driving it. I wonder what it sounds like too. I'm not opposed to the idea, although I could NEVER justify that kind of money for what you get!!! Seems to me that the marketing should have started by throwing the keys to a magazine editor without telling them the details and see what THEY thought, rather than scaring the shit out of us with a hefty price tag!

 

Daddio,
It is not a valve in head engine because it does not have the valves in the head, on the other hand it is not a flathead in the truest sense in that it does not have the valves in the block either. It is just a high priced engine.

It looks neat and I am guessing that it runs, we have no idea how much zot you are getting for your money but in reality you don't get a lot of zot for your money from an ardun either.

If someone wants one and they have the cash I guess it is all well and good. it is different, I hope it works out for the builder and doesn't go the way of the edsel.

 

I would like to see the process of how it went from Windsor to Flathead. It must be kinda like a head with sleeves attached that press into the factory Ford block, then what rods do they use? From the bottom to half way up just looks like a 302.

 

I think that there is a lot of info on this thread, I am pretty sure that it is the same builder/engineer.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=741160&highlight=flatty