Thanks, I appreciate your comments. I'm sure yours could look just as good with some buffing and color matching and a little cleaning. Please show it to us in six mos.--TV
I'm in the process of some more work to it. Gonna chrome the window frames and redo the woodgrain on the dash, and I'm looking for some original rear fender skirts. I may down the road install a smallblock and air, it runs so good though I hate to pull it out. --TV
I was trying to be helpful, not rude. You can call it whatever you want, but if you want others to clearly understand, then you should use descriptive terms carefully.
Whose definition is this? I've never heard the term used with a rigorous qualification to it. Seems to me if it's decent and unrestored, it's a survivor.
The reason I wanted to put skirts is it sits a little low in the back. I thought with skirts it would be fine. If I leave it without skirts, I think I should up it in back about 1". What do you guys think?--TV
I think it has a very distictive look as it is, low all around without skirts. Kinda reminds me of the style of this Watson Ford. If you raise it in back it'll look fine, but will be more commonplace, IMO.
Poverty, what a killer find! Congrats! I am partial to four doors, I would would be very proud to park that one in my garage. TV, that too is a beautiful car, the skirts would look good, but the car doesn't really need them IMO. Leave the back as it sits, perfect stance.
Thank you, I respect your thoughts. My son thinks it sits fine also, I guess I'm out voted. Sometimes it's better to leave things alone.--TV
It's actually a registered trademark. The first of its kind in the automotive world. SURVIVOR® Standards <TABLE width=9 align=left><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD width=10> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE height=293 width=722><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD width=435>A panel of Certified SURVIVOR Judges certifies that the car met this set of standards: 1. Is 20 years or older 2. Completed a 20+ miles road test within one hour 3. Over 50% unrestored, un-refinished, and unaltered the way it left the factory in at least three of the four areas: a. Exterior (Paint, Trim, Glass) b. Interior / Trunk c. Under Hood d. Chassis (Suspension, Frame, Wheels) 4. Over 50% of the original finishes (paint, fabrics, plating) remain good color references for restoration of a car just like it. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
The a@@holes at Bloomington Gold who copyrighted the term "Survivor" are after a car club I belong to for using that "Survivor" term in an award it has for an unrestored/well-preserved car to the point of threatening to sue over it.
Funny, I'm reading the description at the top of the thread and all the while the Valley Custom 41 Merc is in my mind, and then there it was below the first pictures! Always thought that car was just the coolest 40's sedan custom ever!
Could not resist adding some skirts in photoshop.. quick job... Fist one is stance as is it right now, only skirts added. Lowered a bit more in the back... Then I felt the tires and white walls where to small, so I added larger once, raised the front a little and added a rear splash pan.
Rikster, Thanks nice work. I really like the large whitewalls, not sure about the skirts. Sure wish I could photoshop like that. Thanks again.
No offense to Mike51Merc, but give me a f*cking break with the trademarked terminology... next up is Custom vs. Kustom... Not surprising that this was set up by the Corvette guys...not that I have anything against awesome restored and "survivor" Vette's, but this is a little too Pebble Beach Concours IMHO...
I agree that it's a bit over the top. We hobbyists have lots of labels we put on our machines and we use these labels to understand what each other are talking about. This thread started by describing a car as a Survivor, but when I saw the pics with the engine swap and new hubcaps I thought "nice runner but no Survivor" as I understood Survivor to mean. The word is becoming more important as "Survivors" are bringing higher prices than restorations and mods today. It's like coins, guns, & antiques where unrestored originals in great shape are the most valuable. So shoot me.
Hey.. Want another one? I am Just south of Wichita exit 33 on the toll road.. Have it posted on here.. Bill
I dont get it.. A panel of Certified SURVIVOR Judges certifies that the car met this set of standards: 1. Is 20 years or older (sure looks like its alot older then 20) 2. Completed a 20+ miles road test within one hour ( is this whats keeping it a survivor? start er up and go ten miles down the road and then back so we can cross this off the list) 3. Over 50% unrestored, un-refinished, and unaltered the way it left the factory in at least three of the four areas: a. Exterior (Paint, Trim, Glass) (looks like it could have the original paint to me) b. Interior / Trunk (yup they stil lare there) c. Under Hood (could almost swear it looks like a merc hood on top and even under it!) d. Chassis (Suspension, Frame, Wheels) (dont see like its sitting on an s10 chasis to me.. hmm think this passes) 4. Over 50% of the original finishes (paint, fabrics, plating) remain good color references for restoration of a car just like it. ( ahhh maybe this is it.. by looking at the paint finish ,I might think it was yellow therefore I may not be able to figure out what the true color of it is.. ) Seems like it descibes the 41 pretty damn well.. btw.. killer score