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Technical '49 Merc frame cracks...common? pics inside

Discussion in 'Traditional Customs' started by timdhawk, Jul 20, 2014.

  1. timdhawk
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    All these are up front. It looks like previous repair was done for some reason. Was this a common thing on Mercs? I assume it repairable... I'm not wrong am I?

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  2. chaddilac
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    grind em out and weld em up!!!
     
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  3. Could be caused by a accident but you should be able to weld them up. HRP
     
  4. Atwater Mike
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    IF (and this a big if, therefore capitalized) you decide to vee out the cracks and weld them up, FIEST and foremost:
    1. Examine the cracks to find their absolute ends.
    2. Mark the visible ends, then clean out the crack with a die grinder and 1/16" X 2" disc.
    3. DRILL a hole at the end of the crack: otherwise, after welding up the crack, it will open up alongside the weld, and crack beyond where you should have drilled it.
    4. Begin welding with a good rosette weld at the hole; stop there, and begin stitching from opposite (cold) end.
    5. Finish stitching (3/4" to 1" stitches, spaced same amount, skipping around) Finally, fill between stitches.
    Allowing ample time to cool slowly is paramount. Ford frames were 'case-hardened', weldable if done carefully, and allowed to cool naturally. Fast cooling will make the weld brittle...
     
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  5. Mr48chev
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    Good info that Mike put out in post 4. My old 51 Merc had several cracks around the front crossmember and that was the primary reason I subframed it. I attributed part of that to it running around on heated coils for most of it's life.
     
  6. desotot
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    Out of 5 49 - 50 merc frames I have 4 have cracks in the front suspension area, the one without cracks in the front suspension area had cracks by the rear spring shackle area. I think FoMoCo had some metalurgy issues and a frame that was not heavy enough for their new independant suspension. Combine that with all the gravel roads of the day and they had some probs. However a good repair and paved roads should be better. I would post pics of mine but they look just like yours.
     
  7. rusty rocket
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    My 51 had cracks thru the coil spring buckets. I dont know if the kingpins seize but i do remember loading it on the trailer to bring it home, when straping it down the front end did not compress. I always thought thats probably what did the damage. X2 on why I have a nova stub on the car.
     
  8. scott51
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    My 51 also had them around the front cross member and coil spring buckets, had the sketchy stick welder repairs too
     
  9. guess i better check mine when it comes home.:eek:;)
     
  10. timdhawk
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  11. slddnmatt
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    Ya they usually have cracks at one time or another by the spring pockets like others have said
     
  12. scott51
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    Well shit I'm glad I saw this post, was starting to think mine had been in a bad prang but had no other evidence

    So with this in mind should all us 49-51 Merc builders working on cars with little to no floors, rockers and cracked frames, be spending a bit of extra time to check things are still square before too much cutting and welding?
     

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