Oooof. My education didn't include name calling. Yeah, that's cool, like what you like. I don't tend to be an abrasive person... no really, ask around. It's just that when you come on a "traditional" hot rod forum, and your seventh post is basically "I like stuff that doesn't match the stuff that this board is about" it really rubs me the wrong way. Oh, keyboard commando? Nah, I'm a decent guy... just get crabby now and then. Shoot me a PM, and I'll send you my address and phone. I'll put on some coffee and the wife made some great cookies the other day. Then we can park your effie next to mine, and do a nice comparison. Ben P.S. I'm always long winded... don't think you're special...