please folks dont ask why i wanna do this ,i dont wanna do it but as it seems there is no other way for the moment . did someone ever put a sbc or a moparsb in a 52-54 lincoln ,what is involved besides the driveshaft, engine and tranny mounts ?
I could almost forgive you if you put a baby block mopar in it, especially if it was a 340. But a Chevy, ouch. What do you need for your Lincoln that would convince you to leave it all Lincoln? Maybe I can help you. I saw a small block Chevy in a 56 Premier once, it looked like a lawnmower engine in a Kenworth truck, lots of room. Good luck, Mike.
as it seems i need to rebuild the whole engine, and a machineshop hour in switzerland is almost unpayable. i think the whole rebuid would cost me araound 6500$ but i have a few csb lasying around . Well the the next thing is , if i rebuild the engine ,and the tranny give up someday ,another 3500$ .So as it seems this beauty engine is not my budget, and belive me , i hate to go this way with any other engine than my loved linc y block
If you can wait, I might be helping my GF's grandson build a 54 Linc. And yes, I picked up a great running Chevy engine and trans, for almost free, that we are going to install. So it's definately going it it. That Linc Y block is MUCH too expensive for a 15 year old to get rebuilt!
Actually, it would be easier. The crossmember saddle,with the pads for the motor mounts, is already there. All you gotta do is find a set that will mount the engine level. A little measuring and a friendly parts man will solve that problem. Oh well, another bastard 'chile is about to be born...UGH!
Well if I were in Switzerland I imagine I might be thinking the same way as you, but since my options are a little better here, my Lincoln will be getting it's Lincoln Engine back because IT IS SO DAMN COOL.. Yesterday I have all but confirmed that I have a rod starting to knock in my Lincoln 341.... I was wanting to drive it for a while longer before having to tear into the car, but shit happens... It seems as here in the States parts for the Lincoln engine are somewhat affordable and available over ebay... You might want to do a search under "55 Lincoln" this search has always brought up listings for engine rebuild kits from "falconglobal" or something like that. It seems as if they use parts from "Packard Inc," has anyone used parts from this source? I want to believe that the quality is good, but confirmation would be nice...
yes i also found this company on ebay and as it seems i go the hard way and put that engine back in , my big scare is more the tranny if this someday will go over the boarder i have to spend another 5 grands so god damn why is our hobby so expensiv
The point of this hobby is to have fun with your old car. How much fun are you having with a bad engine? Put the Chevy in it and don't look back. Jeez, it so easy for others to spend some one elses money.
The Lincoln transmission issue is problematic.. I was thinking about buying the $1,000 adapter kit and installing an aod... But there again, we are still talking about thousands of dollars... Sucks don't it!
Unless that Lincoln motor has a rod though the side of the block I'd bet fixin' it would be cheaper than rebuilding a sbc and all that's involved puttin' it in there. Plus people wouldn't look at you like yer crazy ..
@hotroddon: do you think peoples like me wear a fucking rolex here ? if i would have the money forit , i would buy a hemi for my 66barracuda. @Customline Vicky no one can see my engine with 150 miles a hour ,what is legal just 200 meters away from the place i write this post . I live exactly on the border to germany and the first first thing we do with every car ,go to the autobahn and check if it was a good deal
Please, Please, rethink what you're doing. Do everything in your power to keep the y-block in it, or at least keep it in the family and run a SBF. Nothing is more disappointing than looking at a nice Lincoln, poping the hood and looking at a SBC. I know it's expensive, I have 56, but its worth it. But, its your car and you make the call. Good luck whatever you choose to do.
So if thats the case put a Saab,or a Volvo in it. How about a Cookoo clock motor. Maybe a big wind up key sticking out of the roof
Maybe you could find a known good runner or a rebuilt Lincoln engine in the states and have it shipped over. That is what we do when we do 200 and 300 tdi diesel conversions on old land rovers series trucks. If there is anything I can do to help let me know. I'd be more than happy to help procure anything local.
I've done it in a '54 Lincoln Capri. Before I get Flamed here; IT WASN'T MINE. Believe it or not, it was a pain in the ass. Next time, I'd try to stay with a Y-block... But yeah, Did the whole thing, 350/350, pwr steering conversion with the origional Lincoln box, exhaust routing, etc.. PM me if you want some more details or have any specific questions. Regardless of tradition, The good thing about a SBC is IF IT does brake down on ya, you can get parts almost anywhere, and when ever you want FOR CHEAP as opposed to a Y-block. BYC
okay cool , at he moment is a rebuilt 54 merc enhine arround and i looking for it ,this engine should fit my tranny , right ? @Barn yard Cevy : pm for you
Have you thought about trying to locate a good Y block in the US and having it shipped to you. Maybe some of the guys offering advice above can track you down one. Might be a simple easy way of resolving this, particulary if you sell the SBC to offset your costs.
It seems like an easy swap now but once you get into it you will find there are lots of little things you need to do. There is a reason the drivers side exhaust loops over the front of the motor, there is FA room to run an exhast manifold b/c of the steering box, also whatever you put in there is going to be shorter, so the tailshaft has to extend into the chassis loop and this determines how high or low the car sits as the tail shaft will hit the chassis loop. If i am not making sense, side under the car and see where the trans uni is and imagine it further towards the front by about a foot. I did the same thing with a sbf that i had, got half way through it and thought this is something i wouldnt do again.
I've got a fresh 368 longblock, .010/.010 on the crank,.040 on the bore, balanced, Clay Smith cam, all new valves, rebuilt rockers. I've also got a 368 shortblock, .010/.010 on the crank, .040 on the bore, Isky cam. Not assembled yet, so I can still balance it. PM me if your interested. I'm close to LAX so I can put it on a pallet and get it to the shipper for you.
There is a lot of confusion (for me anyway!) concering what works and what does not with these Lincoln Y blocks.... It is MY UNDERSTANDING that the bell patterns are different from Ford/Mercury to Lincoln Y Block. So, I THINK, the Merc tranny will work, but you will need the Ford/Merc Bell housing... To further complicate matters, the 57 Merc Turnpike Cruiser used the Lincoln 368, but I think this is the only Merc to use the Lincoln Y Block.
if he has that much trouble getting the engine work, the transmission would be horrible. I had a hell of a time finding a transmission or someone who knew how to work on one in Ohio.
Cornerfool has the engine that will work for your car. The 368 should fit just fine in your car, but the engine will need some things done first. If you intend on using the original transmission (hydramatic) then the 368 will need to have a pilot bearing installed and the hydramatic flywheel will have to be counterbalanced to the the 368 crankshaft. If you want to go the 1955 up transmission (Lincoln Turbo Drive, which is a beefed up Fordomatic) then you would need to find one out of a 1955 (or possibly a 56 or 57) Lincoln for proper length. But this has it's drawbacks too. The transmission linkage(s) are different for the newer transmission, as is probably the driveshaft yoke. I myself would get with Cornerfool, work out the details on purchasing the 368. It might not be too bad if you could get your engine out, remove the flywheel and send to Cornerfool and have him install the pilot bearing and have the flywheel counterbalanced. Just a suggestion, since I have done business with Cornerfool and he is a good guy to do business with. PM him and discuss this possibility. The hydramatic is a great transmission and should (and does) hold up quite well. If you decide to go some other route other than keeping the hydramatic transmission, then let me know, I would be interested in your transmission, flywheel, and driveshaft.
I just bought a tranny kit from Bendsen's in order to put a cheap and repairable THM 350 in my Lincoln, this of course involves some upfront cost, but should end in a workable solution for a long time in the future. Of course, for your car, there are other things to consider, especially snce the car is in SWEDEN. Frankly, I have fallen in love with my Lincoln 341, but none the less, I would rather see you DRIVE your Lincoln with a Chevy small block, than to know it is PARKED with a Lincoln that wont run... Thesr cars are GREAT drivers, it is barely short of a crime to park em...
The 54 Mercury engine (256) is what is known as a Ford Y and is different from a Lincoln Y block. The bell housing pattern is similar but not the same. So if you wanted to go this route, you probably could, but you would need a 55 Lincoln Turbo Drive transmission with the 54 Mercomatic transmission bell housing. This would allow the Merc engine and an automatic to be used in your car. But there are other things that too would be needed. Driveshaft, along with modifications are needed, the shift quadrant would be different and you would need to get one from a 55 Lincoln. Other things would also be needed. The list goes on and on. So it sounds good, but not that good.
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