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56 gasser name ???

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by lorodz, Aug 21, 2009.

  1. This is the attitude that once was the rule on the HAMB. It's refreshing to see the smart ass, but still right on, response to this kind of thread. Good on ya, Brahm.

    ...Once upon a time there was a class in drag racing called Gas. It had letter designations to indicate displacement. The class allowed for certain modifications regarding engine setback and crank center difference from stock and had some safety requirements too. The gas classes were VERY close and competitive. Back in the heyday of drag racing, the gas and Super Stock classes were more popular than even the top fuel cars. This era is sort of sacred to a lot of us who were there. It is not really hard to get the concept right. Pick a year, get an old rule book and make the car conform. If you can't do that, you should pick some other name to call that kind of car. Seriously, it's not a hard concept, a gasser is car that fits the rule book for the gas class. It was one of the most hard fought racing classes ever. It deserves respect.

    And, kid? Your '56 ain't far off in looks, make it right. Then blast it down the local track that's a whole day's drive for you. bet your face will hurt from grinning after you do it.
     
  2. lorodz
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    as far as i can see the car is a gasser minus - the straight axle but back than they werent all straight axle cars.
    this car is no insult to what was but is a tribute in my eyes. car has a small block with a tunnel ram stock rear with 456 gears ..everything in and on this car was from the day ...i have many mags that show what was in gasser class cars in the late 50's early 60's and this car has most of them ...

    still to do is a big block (on its way )
    moon tank for front grille
    roll cage
    other than that almost everything is whats in the mags i have .
     
  3. Most gassers didn't have straight axles. Seriously, go to ebay and score a rule book. You're not that far off. Do it right, man.
     
  4. lorodz
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    what to look for under ebay listing...as far as rule book where do i look for it in what section books,or parts or what??
     
  5. Brahm
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  6. lorodz
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    <TABLE style="WIDTH: 1429px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 x:str><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; TEXT-ALIGN: left; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; FONT-STYLE: normal; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; VERTICAL-ALIGN: bottom; BORDER-TOP: medium none; FONT-WEIGHT: 400; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; TEXT-DECORATION: none; PADDING-TOP: 0px" height=17 colSpan=13>1960: 10% Engine setback allowable (rule implemented for engine swapping). Forward most spark plug could not be relocated more than 10% of the wheelbase behind the front axle.</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; TEXT-ALIGN: left; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; FONT-STYLE: normal; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; VERTICAL-ALIGN: bottom; BORDER-TOP: medium none; FONT-WEIGHT: 400; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; TEXT-DECORATION: none; PADDING-TOP: 0px" height=17></TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; TEXT-ALIGN: left; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; FONT-STYLE: normal; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; VERTICAL-ALIGN: bottom; BORDER-TOP: medium none; FONT-WEIGHT: 400; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; TEXT-DECORATION: none; PADDING-TOP: 0px" colSpan=10>24 inch maximum engine height from the ground (measured to centerline of crankshaft), wheelbase minimum increased to 92 inches</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
     
  7. lorodz
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    so now how do i figure out where my car would place in class
     
  8. Brahm
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    Class is based on the times you think it will run in the quarter, most likely if I understand what you wrote correctly (stock SBC, with a tunnel ram and two carbs) it will be in E/Gas, or F/Gas. Unfortunately tunnel rams don't perform well on low compression/stock motors and if your cam/heads don't match the RPM range of the intake (ie shooting for High RPMS 6500-8500 with a tunnel ram), and you don't have a huge stall as well and aren't launching in the higher rpm range. That tunnel ram is going to hurt you more then help. (but a huge stall will make the car rather unstreetable unless you have a lock up converter which is OT for this forum.

    If I had to guess and I'm not trying to be to much of a dick here, 4000-5000lb car with stock suspension, trans, and a mild motor would put you in the 15-16 second 1/4 mile range, 16's at first until you get really familiar with your shift points and how to launch without spinning tires (if it's an open legger, and has stock gears in the rear). After a few days you should be able to put it into the mid 15's and possibly high 14's .
     
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2010
  9. Johnny Gee
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    OK lorodz, cought you say'n this on a differant thread. "thick lil devil isn't she..... just my style...". With that I say name your car BBW :p:D. For Bad Blue White
     
  10. el Scotto
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    Big block Chevys aren't 1960 period correct, if you're worrying about all that jazz....
     
  11. Brahm
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    First production bbc was 1958
     
  12. el Scotto
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    Is the W-block considered a BBC?

    I though the first BBC came out in '65 or '66...
     
  13. As much as I agree that you shouldn't be fishing on the net for a name for your own car. Here's my suggestion "The Contender" as long as you can back up the name.

    one that contends; especially : a competitor for a championship or high honor <a heavyweight title contender>
     
  14. Mister Nasty
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    How bout MYASSIS DRAGON ??
     
  15. 55chevr
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    The W block was called a truck motor ... the terms big block and small block werent invented until '66
     
  16. lorodz
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    the big block im getting is from a 65 threw 68 im going for a 60's theme
     
  17. Looks pretty cool...
     
  18. lorodz
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    * update * i got the 4 speed transmission today with the lakewood scatter sheild 11 inch clutch 168 tooth fly wheel.and pressure plate .tomorrow i get the 454 bb looked at the motor today to make shure i really wanted it ..so i removed the manifold ..
    on the motor there is a edelbrock manifold there is a race damper pully on the crank 850 holley carb.
    the heads appear to be stock but bye the looks of the cam i doubt it the cam looks real beefy i could see it threw the valley im shure its not a roller so its gotta be hydraulic...theres no rollers in the heads so ...but it all liooks to be good.
     
  19. 56sedandelivery
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    How about "Thors Hammer", as far as a name goes. Butch/56sedandelivery.
     
  20. lorodz
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    todays updates ...sorry no pictures yet ..
    ok so i clean the bajesus outta this motor this morning i pulled the valve covers off the manifold the water pump,oil filter you name it i wire wheeled the block and heads and oil pan degreesed everyting gave it a bath with carb cleaner than painted everything ( orange ) of course installed a edel brock performance manifold with all new performace gaskets bolted it all together .
    than made my way to the back of the motor had the fly wheel re surfaced installed the clutch i got with all new throw out and pilot bearing i picked up this morning ,hooked up the clutch pressure plate and scatter sheild than hooked the 4 speed up to the back everything was cleaned real good before install ,, wanted to get the shifter and linkage on the trans but the set up i got from my buddy is missing some parts so i cant use either of them missing some small parts have to buy a new one i guess no biggie ...

    tomorrows plans are to paint the pulleys install water pump ,install alt,fuel pump block off plate, new belt ,carb & new gasket ,
    i still am waiting for header gaskets have to order them , oil pan gasket , i need to find a complete shifte that i can afford im so broke.. lol.. oh and im waiting on the motor mount i orderd from speedway should be thursday ..so hope fully by this week end ill have the small block out and the big block at least sat in the engine bay ...crossing my fingers ... will have some pictures tomorrow for you guys ...
     
  21. Johnny Gee
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    How can you be broke with all those killer deals you have gotten
     
  22. lorodz
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    lol...im so tight i can squeeze a diamond out my ass ...layed off ...so everything has to be a deal ..i cant spend unemployment money on cars it goes straight to bills every week i work 1 or 2 days tops with a friend installing garage doors, it dont pay much until i find a full time job which is hard at this time .... im limited on time cause of college ..
     
  23. Johnny Gee
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    Ouch, that puts a new meaning to Blood Diamond :eek: Sorry to hear your out of work.
     
  24. Ghastly
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    You can get them through NAPA dealers for $45 each. Or you could take some lights apart and spray the lens with transparent paint from the hobby store. Than you can pic any color you want.
     
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  25. lorodz
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    Johnny Gee<SCRIPT type=text/javascript> vbmenu_register("postmenu_5337584", true); </SCRIPT>
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    yea it sucks but theres nothing i can do ...just pray to find something soon..



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    You can get them through NAPA dealers for $45 each. Or you could take some lights apart and spray the lens with transparent paint from the hobby store. Than you can pic any color you want.

    you probably can .....i wouldnt take me apart though to much work for a colored light ...good luck with that..
     
  26. 8FLEET9
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    nice score on those parts man, good luck on the swap!
     
  27. lorodz
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  28. lorodz
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    so really didnt do much today i found a guy that had a complete 4 speed hurst shifter for sale on craigslist he wanted 250 i got it for 140..(no change)
    anyway i installed it to the trans to see how the trans shifted and it all works great the shifter was brand new never used he sold his project before he installed it so lucky me ...still to do header gaskets oil pan gasket swap oil pan,get a fan belt,,and waiting on speedway to send my front motor mount should be here tomorrow...oh and swap the crappy looking valve covers for the moroso ones i just got today ,the manifold will be swapped out for a tunnel ram when i can afford it ...
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  29. Nortin
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  30. Johnny Gee
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    Come'n along, I take it you have bucket seats. Did you get the block saver plate with the scader shield kuz i see alot of missing bolts there. The bracket with the 3 holes on the left side of the houseing, your ball stud bracket that as a lil z bend in it goes on the bottom 2 holes.
     

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